Tim Nolan wrote:

I assume you meant to type "don't agree with facts".


Yes, thank you.

As I see it, Abdu'l Baha was in a category different from the rest of us, and different from the House of Justice. He combined humanness with superhuman knowledge and perfection.


Forgive me if I seem to be dense about this, but how do we know Abdul-Baha possessed superhuman knowledge when he couldn't discern factual errors?
However, even He sometimes made statements which relied on information someone had reported to Him. If the information was inaccurate or incomplete, then the Master might have written something which was not in accord with facts.


Yes, there are a number of instances in which I think this is correct. For example, Abdul-Baha wrote in Secret of Divine Civilization that Voltaire and other philosophers of the Enlightenment were atheists, when Voltaire's own words dispute this, but the belief that European philosophers were atheists based on their promotion of secularism was a common misunderstanding in the Arab world.

This does not reflect at all His infallibility, it shows nothing more than
the need for accurate information.


Can you explain this a little more. It would seem that the use of inaccurate information contradicts infallibility in all statements.

On the other hand, it is a mistake, in my opinion, to merely say that Abdu'l Baha was wrong. There is always wisdom to be learned from Him, even if His words are counter to the facts.


Yes, I agree with you here. Even where Abdul-Baha is factually wrong, it does not necessarily take away from what he was saying because he was more concerned with spirituality than with the mere facts of material existence. I think I understand Abdul-Baha's "conferred infallibility" related to being the Head of the Faith, but I am not sure where those words come from. But I am more than a little puzzled about explaining Abdul-Baha's errors, especially related to science, to nonBahais. To maintain that he was infallible understand all circumstances makes no sense and seems to elevate him to a Manifestation of God, a station he repeatedly denied. Marleen




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