Thank you for that reply, Gilberto. That is how I understood it as well.
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gilberto Simpson
Sent: 11 May 2006 18:40
To: Baha'i Studies
Subject: Re: question about Islam
What you write below seems based on a misunderstanding. The reformers
(mujadids) who are prophecied every 100 years aren't people who bring
a new rules. They are more like people who revive the faith and
understanding and piety of the community.
-G
On 5/11/06, janine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thank you. I did not realise that Sharia law is seen as eternal. He does
not
> seem to think so, because he allows for reformers in Islam, he said that
> that was foreseen in Islam, that every 100 years or so a reformer would
come
> about.
>
> So the changes in obligatory prayer etc he sees as a reform of Islam, of
> making Islam more appealing to westerners. (yes I told him that many
Muslims
> became Bahais, so much so that they kept on banning Bahá'u'llah until He
> ended up in Akka, but he is quite fixed in his views).
>
>
>
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Iskandar Hai,
M.D.
> Sent: 06 May 2006 21:53
> To: Baha'i Studies
> Subject: Re: question about Islam
>
> Dear Janine,
> In a sense he is right that the Baha'i Faith is a re-iteration of Islam
> but then in that sense the Baha'i Faith is a re-iteration of Judaism,
> Christianity, etc., as we believe that the foundation of all religions is
> one. The essential and fundamental tenets of all faiths are the same. They
> all teach one creator God, and they all teach love and fellowship, etc.,
> and they all prohibit murder and theft, etc., etc. In that sense Islam is
> a re-iteration of the religion of Abraham, of Moses, of Jesus, etc., etc.
>
> But Muslims believe that Islamic shari`ah law is eternal, never to be
> abrogated; things like the obligatory prayer (the salAt), the point of
> adoration (Qiblih), fasting, and laws pertaining to personal status such
> as inheritance, matrimonial/divorce laws, penalties and fines for theft,
> murder, adultery, etc., etc., are considered by Muslims to be eternal and
> not subject to abrogation. So, I'm surprised that your Muslim Shaykh
> friend would not notice that Baha'is have new obligatory prayers, new
> Qiblih, new Hajj pilgrimage place/practice different from Islam, cannot
> practice bigamy, have a clear cut prohibition against slavery, have a
> Divinely-ordained administartive order based on explicit Texts of the Book
> of Baha'u'llah's Covenant and on the Will & Testament of `Abdu'l-Baha,
> etc., etc., and have a new 19-day month of fasting in March (Ramadan is
> 29-30 days and is a lunar month, cycles through the seasons) as being
> abrogations of Islamic shari`ah religious laws if he has actually read the
> Aqdas and other Baha'i Holy Writings,
>
> Warm and loving regards,
> Iskandar
>
> On Fri, 5 May 2006, Tim Nolan wrote:
>
> > Hello Janine,
> >
> > >He feels that the Bahai faith is just a reiteration of Islam, nothing
> > new. <
> >
> > The Baha'i Faith has an explicit, written Covenant, which preserves
the
> unity
> > of the Baha'is. Islam doesn't have this, which is why there are rival
> Islamic factions.
> > The Baha'i Covenant also provides a source of continuing, unerring
> divine guidance,
> > after the Founder is no longer physically present. Sunni Muslims do
not
> have this, and Shi'a Muslims haven't had this for about 13 centuries.
> >
> > Baha'u'llah forbids religious warfare, Muhammad did not forbid this.
> >
> > Those are just two examples off the top of my head. He will find
others
> If he studies the revelation of Baha'u'llah more closely.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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