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Ursus Maximus wrote:
This is the first time I've encountered the term "plenary inerrancy'. I would appreciate it if you would expand on this term and its application to our Faith. It is important to me.

Hi, Ron:

In Protestantism, there are two major views of inerrancy: verbal plenary inerrancy and nonverbal plenary inerrancy. The first one refers to the view that the biblical autographs (the original manuscripts of the Bible) were word-for-word inerrant. The second is the view that the ideas or concepts, but not necessarily the precise words, are inerrant. All fundamentalists (by definition) and most conservative evangelicals subscribe to verbal plenary inerrancy. More moderate and liberal evangelicals may support a nonverbal plenary inerrancy.

My problem is that it is apparent to me that what I call "literal infallibility" or in other words verbal inerrancy or whatever is not valid. In other words, any literal reading of scripture, including of our Central Figures, can not be guaranteed to be literally inerrant and any attempt to insist that it does leads to big problems as we try to cover up and explain the discrepancies. For me this is a big issue, to say the least.

Many Baha'is use the English-language word "infallibility" (a translation of the Arabic 'ismat or related words) to refer to something like verbal plenary inerrancy (especially concerning the Writings of the Three Central Figures). However, this Baha'i perspective appears to me to have been developed from at least two sources: the Protestant influence on the Baha'i community and the reverence shown by many of the early Iranian immigrants to the West. Personally, I do not find any support for it in the Baha'i texts themselves.

My problem is, it seems to me that most Baha'is including famous ones who speak at Conferences and etc. probably do not find my understanding acceptable. This obviously worries me.

In most organizations, the more conservative members are usually those who achieve prominence. Many people, as the Secretariat of the House of Justice has said, confuse rigidity with devotion.

Maybe this concept of 'plenary inerrancy not applying' can help me. But is a belief that our Central Figures including the Universal House of Justice don't have plenary inerrancy, is that acceptable to the Administration, do you think?

I don't know. Personally, I don't concern myself with what is or is not acceptable. I just attempt to understand the Baha'i texts to the best of my ability.

Yet most Baha'is seem to vehemently believe in such literal verbal inerrancy, if you will.

My impression is that most people don't really think about it. However, if asked, many will, upon reflection, support something like verbal plenary inerrancy.

Can you help me with some thoughts on this? It is a big issue I think because if we get "entry by troops" then surely it will require that we not discourage people from entering the Faith unless they can accept literal verbal inerrancy. I do not believe mass numbers of people in a scientific age can or will accept literal verbal inerrancy.

I think that the main point is to accept the authority of the Central Figures and of the Administration. The infallibility issue is really a bit like metaphysical speculation.

I have been advised on this list to just stay quiet and not worry about it. But I take this Faith seriously and I can't get this out of my mind. I believe most folks on this list believe in what I would call literal verbal inerrancy of the Writings and the Central Figures so for them its not an issue. But for me it is and I don't want to become inactive or be an outcast or leave the Faith because of this.

Someone advised you to stay quiet?

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Mark A. Foster, Ph.D. * 25 domains: www.markfoster.net SED: www.neurelitism.com
"... the modern challenge is how to live with uncertainty. The basic fault lines today are not between people with different beliefs but between people who hold these beliefs with an element of uncertainty and people who hold these beliefs with a pretense of certitude." — Peter L. Berger, sociologist


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