There have been some good points made in this discussion.

I personally think that Abdu'l-Baha's statements on retribution should 
be taken at face value.  How then do you deal with Marleen's 
objections?

I think the answer is simple.  It is mankind that is being punished.  
The individual(s) are 'chosen' according to the laws of nature.

We need to remember also that many times the lifestyle choice is made 
not by the individual afflicted, but another or others that the 
individual likely does not even know.  

Don C

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