I'm with Dale on this issue.
RT
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dale Young" <dyoung5...@wowway.com>
To: "wikla" <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>; <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>; "Edward
Martin" <e...@gamutstrings.com>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 9:31 PM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: B-lute 6th course, with octave or no?
I still think that the 6th course is used too often as a melody string for
that to be octave strung. When I hear the octave jump at the 6th in a
recording, I find it annoying for anything after 1730. Just let the basses
start at the 7th...unless you're playing that old music...then who
cares...not much melody to interfere with anyway.
cranky boy d.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Edward Martin" <e...@gamutstrings.com>
To: "wikla" <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>; <baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 8:21 PM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: B-lute 6th course, with octave or no?
Hi, Arto..
Congratulations in finally entering the realm of baroque lute. i
hope you find it rewarding.
I think you can string it however you like, using materials which are
your favorites.
You are correct, in starting octaves at the 6th course. One thing I
find the best is to have the tension of the octaves at least as
strong as the fundamentals. There was a practice about 20 years ago,
in which people used the octave only about 80% of the tension of the
fundamentals, but this yielded unsatisfactory result, in my
opinion. This was with Pyramid wound strings and nylon octaves.
I usually use around 2.9 Kg of tension for the 4th course to the 13th
course.
One thing to keep in mind is that if you use wound - overspun basses
starting at the 9th course, where the swan extension starts, you may
not like it (I do not), as the sustain is too great. The very reason
for the added length for the lower basses is to get a smaller
diameter string, so gut works beautifully for those courses. For 13
course lutes with a rider on 12 & 13, the length is considerably
shorter, so a wound string may work better in that application; but
for the swan necks, gut rules.
Good luck!
ed
At 05:22 PM 10/23/2009, wikla wrote:
And of course I forgot to tell the string lenghts:
8 courses (2 single, 6 double) 69 cm on the fingerboard and
5 (+1) courses 96 cm on the swan extension
Arto
On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:28:53 +0300, wikla <wi...@cs.helsinki.fi> wrote:
> Hi b-lutenists,
>
> I happened to get a "Martin Hoffmann" lute (with bad stringing) to my
> hands. Single strings, old everlasting, and also rosted, Pyramid
> single
> basses etc. There are anyhow enough of pegs to double string
> everything
> below the two top strings...
>
> I suppose the octave doubles should start on the 6th course, the "A"
> (and
> of course below). Am I right?
>
> Any other stringing advice? What string tensions do you use? What
> string
> materials?
>
> Arto
>
>
>
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