Thanks very much Jari.  Sorry I didn't have time to look deeper and figure out
what was wrong.  As you'll see in a few weeks we have a big project nearing
release.

cheers,
Bob.

Jari Häkkinen writes:
 > Hi Bob,
 > 
 > We are looking into the issue. It looks like the BASE2 version of lowess 
 > is flawed. We are testing and reading publications to make sure that we 
 > make a proper fix. We already have a fix for the problem but want to 
 > make sure that we don't create new bugs. We plan to release a 2.7.2 ASAP 
 > with the fix.
 > 
 > Thank you for reporting this issue to us.
 > 
 > 
 > Jari
 > 
 > 
 > Bob MacCallum wrote:
 > > I've done some more tests on the lowess problem.
 > > 
 > > Please refer from now on to our development server:
 > > 
 > > http://base.vectorbase.org:8080/base2dev/
 > > Experiment: "Male vs. female (Koutsos et al., 2007)" 
 > > 
 > > I ran the base1 lowess plugin and got a very different result compared to 
 > > the
 > > base2 plugin.  The base1 plugin results look correct to me.  The base2
 > > correction factor plots do not look at all right to me.
 > > 
 > > Can anyone hazard a guess as to if this is a bug or are the default 
 > > parameters
 > > not suitable for my data?
 > > 
 > > Due to time pressures I think I'm going to have to switch all our analysis
 > > over to use the base1 plugin.
 > > 
 > > many thanks,
 > > Bob.
 > > 
 > > Bob MacCallum writes:
 > >  > 
 > >  > Has anyone had problems with the Lowess analysis plugin?
 > >  > 
 > >  > To me it looks like it is overcorrecting.  Where a M/A plot
 > >  > is largely below the zero line before normalisation, it ends
 > >  > up largely above it afterwards.
 > >  > 
 > >  > I'm using default values (including 0 for block group size).
 > >  > Default values were always fine in BASE1.
 > >  > 
 > >  > You can look for yourself with the guest login at
 > >  > http://fungen.vectorbase.org/base2
 > >  > 
 > >  > Experiment "Male vs. female (Koutsos et al., 2007)" is a good
 > >  > small example.
 > >  > 
 > >  > I don't see a recent ticket on this (I have not upgraded in
 > >  > a few months).
 > >  > 
 > >  > cheers,
 > >  > Bob.
 > >  > 
 > >  > 
 > >  > -- 
 > >  > Bob MacCallum | VectorBase Developer | Kafatos/Christophides Groups |
 > >  > Division of Cell and Molecular Biology | Imperial College London |
 > >  > Phone +442075941945 | Email [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > >  > 
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