In my search for 'verstehen' on this whole compost tea thing, it seems to me
there are a number of questions that never really get answered.

For example, in Elaine's piece in Kitchen Gardener

http://www.taunton.com/finegardening/pages/G00030_p3.asp

She talks about filling a five gallon bucket half full of compost, then
bubbling up air through the compost plus nutrients.

But in the larger systems much smaller amounts of compost are used, so the
issue of extraction becomes more critical.

For my part I do not understand why you can't just scale up the bucket
system and use higher powered air systems, for example the sorts you see
advertised for ponds, aquaculture and the like, eg:

http://www.airdiffusion.com/

http://members.magnet.at/aquaculture/aeration.htm#Ceramic%20Diffusers

http://www.faireyceramics.com/cpp/aerationdiffusion/ad1.htm

http://www.higherpowersupplies.com/Tanks/Conebottom.htm

http://www.stamfordscientific.com/Tube/tube1000.html

http://www.mnmonline.com/equip.html

It seems to me that the ideal thing would be to have as gentle a high
oxygenation system as you could manage, and to put the compost in there in
as natural and unsifted a state as possible, then use occasional stirring as
an 'extraction' technology, or use stirring before or after the air and
water bubbly phase.....

Simple experiments using just compost and water, then stirring, to determine
extraction quality, could be done, and it seems to me, should be done and
reported out.

But I agree in principle with Steve, why separate the compost from the
general process if you can avoid it?

The Soil Soup sock thing, which I have, seems needed by the Soil Soup
machine to keep chunky stuff from clogging up the mechanism of that device,
but aeration through fine bubble diffusion, or even coarse bubble, seems not
to need such a creature.

If you look around at the commercial tea makers, they seem increasingly to
use bubbling, for example:

http://www.compara.nl/Compost_Tea_Systems.htm

http://www.growingsolutions.com/products.html

http://www.composttea.com/100gallon.htm

http://www.freedom-organic.com/fo_smartbrewers.html

So this obviates, or at least reduces, the need to 'put a sock in it' and
allows for the compost to more completely mingle, mix and meander whilst
breeding up the microherd oh so joyously.

It should also mean that relatively small scale equipment in the 10- 50
gallon range should be available at about the cost of the aeration equipment
plus container.

With a 100 gallon system from the big boys going for as much as $4000 US,
the economies of figuring this out on a DIY basis seem substantial.

Some bubblings,

Frank Teuton


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Subject: Re: First Tea Analysis Results


>
> In a message dated 4/28/02 8:13:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << One of the early issues of compost tea brewing was compaction that
> occurs within the compost tea bag. This is commonly solved by
> inserting and additional aeration nozzle into the tea bag itself.
> This physically pushes the compost away from compaction and provides
> direct aeration. I'm very interested in hearing experiences contrary
> to this and in hearing from Dan, who, as I understand it, uses this
> method. >>
>
> Try free flowing compost and food in the brewer, intimately in touch with
the
> water... SStorch
>
>

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