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Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: Gary Zimmer, Jerry Brunetti on the OZ/NZ "Three-Up Tour"


> send me your "albrecht" soil tests....and quite a bit of interesting talk
can
> be had, but the report can not tell you much about soil stucture.
Your right -Two cents from downunder - I reckon structure has much more to
do with live critters than chemistry - also believe that our soil amendment
programs should be focussed on encouraging beneficial soil life to the
maximum rather than on 'correcting' soil chemistry
>
> Even with excellent calcium and magnesium....I often find soils with very
> poor structure. Have taken thousands of soil samples...my self, and
watched
> the correlation between crops performance and the analysis.
How good is that correlation? do you see the difficult to explain results?
ie: good crops on out of balance soils and poor performances on occasions
from some of the perfect paddocks?

> Here is a riddle for you...I have soils with 9-15% "humus" as listed by
> perrry ag lab/Kinsey, yet (some) of these soils are "infertile". Why?
plenty of choices here:
#humus contains large percentage of 'raw' material going through active
decomposition = temporary tieup of nutrients specially trace elements
#the large amount of humus and extra soil water has diluted the nutrient
level - traces again
#where did the 'humus' come from originally , you could have all sorts of im
balances , wood chips, straw, (high potassium) , feedlot manure -high in
potassium and sodium salts.
many possibilities.
lets hear some more
Cheers
Lloyd Charles

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