Arjen
Do you have a email address for the Geotheaneum ag folks?? Pls send.
Head in the sand is not a long term option, sorry. If they can not do
something then the rest of us better get busy.
Eh if preps are necessary for Demeter, preps illegal, therefore anything
with Demeter illegal. Its pretty simple. Cheating is getting harder and
harder, hence all the beaurocracy we live with. Once caught, thats it for
BD.We know so will everyone else. Madness.
I can appreciate they have trouble with radionic preps, sure hard to sell to
the everyman and provide substantial data for. Sure not a definable point of
difference, which afterall, applying the preps is all that separates organic
and BD in NZ.
Homeopathic preps on the other hand, can be quantified and applied
physically and therefore something is done and seen to be done, as they
need. Combine them with a bug source and you have both forces and matter
being applied, as they want.
I would like to obtain some 'official' European preps please, that I can
work up into homeopathics. At least save the ones that are there now for the
future.
Where does one buy them??
What is it about �fficial' BDers that they love shoving their heads in the
sand and maintain their mantra of delusion.
We have had it here for 25 years and it is still running as strong as ever.
cheers
GA
BdMax distributors of ThermoMax -THE proven frost protection
www.bdmax.co.nz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Arjen Huese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions?
> A lot of European bdgrowers use the Demeter-symbol and get a higher price
> for their products than for ordinary organic products. Part of the
> requirements for using the Demeter-symbol is the ('traditional') use of
the
> preps, not radionically applied but physically stirring and spraying.
> Manfred Klett (the head of the agricultural section in the
> Goetheanum-Dornach) suggests '... in the meantime we have to feel free to
> act illegally...'
> The Demeter certification bodies in Europe are strict: no application of
> preps: no Demeter symbol. I knew a bdfarmer in Germany who invented his
own
> preparation and applied it succesfully; he wanted to use it in stead of
> Steiner's preps. The reaction of the Demeterbund was: if you don't use
> Steiner's preps, than it is not Demeter, no matter how well his prep works
> or any discussion.
> I was just wondering what the attitude of the Demeter certification bodies
> in USA, OZ, NZ is towards radionically applied preps/ Malcolm Rae cards,
> etc. Or does nobody carry a Demeter symbol there?
> Arjen
>
>
> At 21:57 19/06/2003 -0700, you wrote:
> >How does this help if one cannot make all the BD preps except Valerian?
The
> >new EU rules are no animals parts to be used for prep. making. Same
problem
> >for anthr. homeopathic medicine.
> >Michael
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Biodynamic Food and Farming Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 6:18 PM
> >Subject: Re: Dornachian reactions?
> >
> >
> > > Arjen,
> > >
> > > The best of health to you for visiting our e-mail list. It has bit a
bit
> > > unfortunate that our English language e-mail list has left out
Germans.
> >You
> > > should be full participants, but there is the language barrierier.
> > >
> > > So now you want to know about how we can circumvent these rulings.?
> > >
> > > One way would be working withn Malcolm Rae cards and English radionic
> > > instruments of the biodynamic preparations in homeopathic usages.
Please
> > > inquire further.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Hugh
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >Hallo,
> > > >
> > > >It is really interesting stuff that people are working with here,
> > > >especially the cosmic pipes, homeopathic peppering and use radionic
> > > >instruments and cards. According to the feedback on this list, it
seems
> > > >like these things work as good, or even better, than the original
thing.
> >At
> > > >the same time we struggle in Europe with legislation that prohibits
the
> > > >making of the preparations, but the official point of view (regarding
the
> > > >ban on burying animal material) from the Goetheanum is (quote Manfred
> > > >Klett) '... in the meantime we have to feel free to act illegally...'
> > > >We only need one malignent journalist to broadcast these 'illegal'
> > > >practices into public and along with some juicy allegations we can
throw
> > > >away our dear Demeter symbol.
> > > >I would be interested to know the different points of view of the
> > > >respective BDAA's in USA, OZ and NZ, as apparently there is a much
more
> > > >free approach to the use of the preps. Any contact with Dornach? Has
Hugh
> > > >already delivered a lecture at the Landbautagung?
> > > >
> > > >Arjen Huese
> > > >
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