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----------------------------------------------------------- From: spark Message 10 in Discussion "For RH Market share see below:" personally - who cares - i dont. now the rest of the people reading this and wondering but linux is so secure thats what they all tell us - go search google http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+security+flaw http://www.pantek.com/library/linux/LDP/HOWTO/PPP-HOWTO/x71.html saw this - so you have boot scripts in different folders. it was rather more different a few years back. an dthey like the debian guys used to say: now the red hat guys are understanding teh right way to do it. expert, this is no fact that affects the secuirty - keep your daemon intiliser and configs and auto mounts any where. doesnt make it a hoot better. where are your facts ? http://mandrake.petra.ac.id:8888/info/max/BkPg155x24.htm#subhead_1 i tried this : D:\RoshanJ\work\cpp\leaks>ping -w 10000 mandrake.petra.ac.id Pinging mandrake.petra.ac.id [202.43.253.13] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 202.43.253.13: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 0ms, Average = 0ms is this thing dead ... was it ever alive? where are your facts ? http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6362 I am looking .... "SuSE 8.0's installation program allows the software packages to be viewed as groups or as package sets. To make things easier, one package application group is called security. The only hardening or monitoring tools installed by default is tcp_wrappers. Applications that are available, but not installed by default, include Aide, Arpwatch, Harden_suse, Logdigest, Nessus, Nmap, Saint, Scanlogd, Seccheck, Snort and Tripwire. " So you have programs on that CD which if you take a Phd to use you can manage. Dear Sir, scorn aside - this is no information about the security of the system. (for those who dont know a package is like a installation zip file or msi package - you can download a thousan monitoring tools for your windows system) The rest of this artcile goe son to show how to configure each tool and something about a security script is not compliant is suse's distribtuon and its work around... - is there some thing something i missed about red hat being stronger, Sir ? where are your facts ? http://lwn.net/2000/0224//security.php3 is this a joke or is this to waste my time and create a big impression ? (sorry my politeness slipped an fell at the last right turn we took) for others, these are snips from what teh arcticle says : "White House Internet Security Summit. President Clinton took 90 minutes out of his schedule on February 15th to attend this summit. Gene Spafford, from Purdue, was ...outlined 7 points made in the summit that no one seemed to dispute: 1 The Internet is international in scope, and most of the companies pres .... 2. Privacy is a big concern for individuals and companies alike. Security concerns should .... " etc "Wayne Madsen calls it media hype and planned Pentagon disinformation in this editorial. Note that Madsen considers himself an insider in the "spook" community, having .... "The hype associated with the recent Internet flooding is outrageous ... " "Security ReportsThis week's open source-related security reports primarily came from the *BSD community, as luck would have it. They included: NetBSD: a vulnerability in ptrace, specific to VAX hardware. NetBSD: SEVERE procfs vulnerability. Discontinue use of procfs until a patch is applied or you have upgraded to NetBSD-current 20000126 or later. FreeBSD: asmon/ascpu,two optional third-party ports distributed with FreeBSD. A root exploit is possible. FreeBSD: multiple buffer overflows in delegate, another optional third-party "port". Removing delegate is recommended, if you have it installed. UpdatesDebian update for GNU make. Here is the Debian advisory to go with the update to the GNU make package " .... ???????? where are your facts ? lets see you talk about security architecture , the operating system objects and message passing mechanisms on which the acl implementaion lies, code access security, preventaion of privilege escalation in the OS, defence in depth .. "And who cares if RMS doesn't appreciate RHL. No competitor likes the market leader ;)" correct ... who cares, and yet this is the same RMS that leads teh campain for freedom, he is the same RMS that boycotted plan9, he is the same stallman who packed your first copy of emacs,the same stallman who starte dtehgcc with which your linux is compiled.. who cares.... (yes i am ranting) where are your facts ? grub ... hmmmm. nothing deserves to be said here... personally 'fdisk /mbr' to grub, i use xosl (and dont come back to me sayong that beacuse of the license it is linux). its been around for years right, have they dared to call it version one atleast yet ? no ... i know what they will say, oh we had feature xxx since version 0.000099987654321 ... awesome most folk who dont know that it has been around since before they were born will sit around and clap at the accomplishment of having taht feature in such an _early_ version. where are your facts ? "It's all Facts, Data and Experiences that matter. I hope Oracle and Red Hat will come out in flying colours with their "Red Hat Server" equipped with EAL4 certification." you know, i sincerely wish they do. linux after a decade of blowing smoke deserves something. and personally take it from me i have nothing against the system - its the bigots and the fake publicity with which you advertise it that i mind. come fair and hold you stand - accept your faults and as we do ours and there can be peace among the communities With Mutual Respect. Microsoft has ...(let me rephrase) Micorsoft IS a collection of the world's best, so are there many good men in the linux tribe - let us have peace based on RESPECT. or is that too much against your line of thinking ? ----------------------------------------------------------- To stop getting this e-mail, or change how often it arrives, go to your E-mail Settings. http://groups.msn.com/bdotnet/_emailsettings.msnw Need help? 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