William writes: *> Anyhow, a minimal board, something like the beaglebone black, but without hdmi would be awesome.*
Which of course is the focus of this thread, exploring whether the AM5718 could take us there. Apparently the answer is "No", although the question that I actually posed was "*How would the costs look*" if AM3358 + PMIC were replaced by AM5718 + PMIC. It's clear that it's "more", but it would be interesting to have some idea of the magnitude. As you rightly point out, *"**The X15 is not in the same 'class' as the Beaglebone boards, but in the same class as the original beagleboards"*. That makes X15 advocacy inapplicable in a BBB or BBG context since X15 misses the BeagleBone price niche by a large margin. This will usually put it out of the running for those typically cost-constrained IoT applications where BBB found a good home. Morgaine. On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:20 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> wrote: > *Although every board has an appropriate niche, the problem with the X15 >> from the PoV of BBB users is that its niche is not the BBB's niche.* >> > > As has been stated many times over now. The X15 is not in the same "class" > as the Beaglebone boards, but in the same class as the original > beagleboards. With much newer and updated features of course. Cost wise, > beagleboards have always been higher than beaglebones . . . > > Another thing to consider is that the X15 has so many features, and > features that far surpass those on the beaglebones, it makes the beaglebone > boards look like toys. So in other words is something more along the lines > of a dev board for the professional, and not the hobbyist. > > With al that said, I too have a "dream" of a board I'd like to see as > well. an AM5718 with networking, and USB only as "out of the box" > peripherals only. With the rest of the on chip peripherals out to some form > of a high density pin header. Granted, onboard eMMC, ad an sdcard reader > would probably be good too now that I think of that. > > Anyhow, a minimal board, something like the beaglebone black, but without > hdmi would be awesome. Size for me would not be too important though. As > the X15 really is not all that big to begin with. Anyhow, my "dream" board > seems pretty close to the already existing x15 . . . > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:42 AM, 'Morgaine' via BeagleBoard < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Drew writes: >> *> BeagleBone Plaid... I sense a best seller! :)* >> >> I wouldn't hold that against it. A haggis in the box would be a step too >> far though. :P >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Morgaine <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Although every board has an appropriate niche, the problem with the X15 >>> from the PoV of BBB users is that its niche is not the BBB's niche. >>> >>> While the X15 is certainly interesting, it's not going to help those BBB >>> users who would like a little more power at a little more cost within the >>> BBB form factor. X15 comes in at a much higher price point, and this puts >>> it out of contention for many small IoT tasks where the BBB's cost is seen >>> as reasonable. >>> >>> BBB has become very popular and a lot of people would like to see the >>> line extended with an upgraded processor, as you know since it's been a >>> regular suggestion here. I'm sure you would fill this product space if you >>> could, but I suppose TI's "$5 AM335x" launch many moons ago was a one-off. >>> Pity. >>> >>> Morgaine. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Gerald Coley <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A lot bigger than the BBG, more expensive than the BBG, no support for >>>> the expansion connectors on the BBG and most likely, a different color. >>>> >>>> A lot smaller than the X15, less expensive than the X15, no support for >>>> the expansion connectors on the X15, and most likely a plaid color. >>>> >>>> >>>> Gerald. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:17 AM, 'Morgaine' via BeagleBoard < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Jason writes: >>>>> *> If someone contributed an open design, that might help push the >>>>> idea along. Not sure how much cheaper it could be than X15. * >>>>> >>>>> How would the costs look if you took the BBG board design (or a BBB >>>>> minus its graphics components), ripped out the AM3358 and its PMIC, and >>>>> designed in an AM5718 and its PMIC instead? >>>>> >>>>> I suspect such a barebones redesign would satisfy a lot of BBB users >>>>> who would like to see a simple and least-cost upgrade to the very >>>>> successful BeagleBone line. >>>>> >>>>> Morgaine. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Gerald >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://beagleboard.org/ >>>> >>>> -- >>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>> --- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>> >>> >> -- >> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "BeagleBoard" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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