> > *Have a look at the Cherry Blossom from Arrow Altech. It is a BBB but with > no HDMI and no network.* >
Actually for the sake of this discussion, we do not really care about the BBB, except in dimension, and cost. But while we're on the subject of a "headless" BB "replacement". the BBG is a much better offering than the one you suggest. Which is of course in my opinion. The biggest factor here, a beaglebone without ethernet is a waste of a board. On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Marius <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > William writes: > *> Anyhow, a minimal board, something like the beaglebone black, but > without hdmi would be awesome.* > > Which of course is the focus of this thread, exploring whether the AM5718 > could take us there. Apparently the answer is "No", although the > question that I actually posed was "*How would the costs look*" if AM3358 > + PMIC were replaced by AM5718 + PMIC. It's clear that it's "more", but > it would be interesting to have some idea of the magnitude. > > > Have a look at the Cherry Blossom from Arrow Altech. It is a BBB but with > no HDMI and no network. > > http://www.arrow.altech.co.za/ > > http://www.arrow.altech.co.za/sites/arrow/files/Cherry%20Blossom%20TI%20Am%20Module.pdf > > > > > As you rightly point out, *"**The X15 is not in the same 'class' as the > Beaglebone boards, but in the same class as the original beagleboards"*. > That makes X15 advocacy inapplicable in a BBB or BBG context since X15 > misses the BeagleBone price niche by a large margin. This will usually put > it out of the running for those typically cost-constrained IoT applications > where BBB found a good home. > > Morgaine. > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:20 PM, William Hermans <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> *Although every board has an appropriate niche, the problem with the X15 >>> from the PoV of BBB users is that its niche is not the BBB's niche.* >>> >> >> As has been stated many times over now. The X15 is not in the same >> "class" as the Beaglebone boards, but in the same class as the original >> beagleboards. With much newer and updated features of course. Cost wise, >> beagleboards have always been higher than beaglebones . . . >> >> Another thing to consider is that the X15 has so many features, and >> features that far surpass those on the beaglebones, it makes the beaglebone >> boards look like toys. So in other words is something more along the lines >> of a dev board for the professional, and not the hobbyist. >> >> With al that said, I too have a "dream" of a board I'd like to see as >> well. an AM5718 with networking, and USB only as "out of the box" >> peripherals only. With the rest of the on chip peripherals out to some form >> of a high density pin header. Granted, onboard eMMC, ad an sdcard reader >> would probably be good too now that I think of that. >> >> Anyhow, a minimal board, something like the beaglebone black, but without >> hdmi would be awesome. Size for me would not be too important though. As >> the X15 really is not all that big to begin with. Anyhow, my "dream" board >> seems pretty close to the already existing x15 . . . >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:42 AM, 'Morgaine' via BeagleBoard < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Drew writes: >>> *> BeagleBone Plaid... I sense a best seller! [image: :)] * >>> >>> I wouldn't hold that against it. A haggis in the box would be a step >>> too far though. [image: :P] >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 6:26 PM, Morgaine < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Although every board has an appropriate niche, the problem with the X15 >>>> from the PoV of BBB users is that its niche is not the BBB's niche. >>>> >>>> While the X15 is certainly interesting, it's not going to help those >>>> BBB users who would like a little more power at a little more cost within >>>> the BBB form factor. X15 comes in at a much higher price point, and this >>>> puts it out of contention for many small IoT tasks where the BBB's cost is >>>> seen as reasonable. >>>> >>>> BBB has become very popular and a lot of people would like to see the >>>> line extended with an upgraded processor, as you know since it's been a >>>> regular suggestion here. I'm sure you would fill this product space if you >>>> could, but I suppose TI's "$5 AM335x" launch many moons ago was a one-off. >>>> Pity. >>>> >>>> Morgaine. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Gerald Coley <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> A lot bigger than the BBG, more expensive than the BBG, no support for >>>>> the expansion connectors on the BBG and most likely, a different color. >>>>> >>>>> A lot smaller than the X15, less expensive than the X15, no support >>>>> for the expansion connectors on the X15, and most likely a plaid color. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gerald. >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:17 AM, 'Morgaine' via BeagleBoard < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Jason writes: >>>>>> *> If someone contributed an open design, that might help push the >>>>>> idea along. Not sure how much cheaper it could be than X15. * >>>>>> >>>>>> How would the costs look if you took the BBG board design (or a BBB >>>>>> minus its graphics components), ripped out the AM3358 and its PMIC, and >>>>>> designed in an AM5718 and its PMIC instead? >>>>>> >>>>>> I suspect such a barebones redesign would satisfy a lot of BBB users >>>>>> who would like to see a simple and least-cost upgrade to the very >>>>>> successful BeagleBone line. >>>>>> >>>>>> Morgaine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Gerald >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://beagleboard.org/ >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>>> --- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> -- >> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "BeagleBoard" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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