On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 5:45 PM Raul Rathmann <[email protected]> wrote:
> I totally get it on the Beaglebone form-factor and continuing support for > it. I have Beaglebone AI format-type solutions I have to support on the > software side and the Mech. and Elec. engineers in my group would probably > devise some kind of torture system and install it in my cubicle if I pushed > a radically different form factor "just because". I was really only > parroting what I've observed with the other groups like RPi and the Jetson > stuff - they seem to be partly going for an industrial direction in a "mass > quantities" kind of way, doesn't mean that's what the Beagleboard group > should do at all. > > The possibility of expanded I/O would be great to see and PCIe would be > fantastic even over a "non-standard" connection. > Really pushing Type-C for that, though it isn’t daughterboard friendly. I'd also add a vote for a populated JTAG connection, or at least one that > one that isn't too involved to install. > Choosing TagConnect for future boards. A bit more expensive to add an adapter, but at least no soldering. > > On Thursday, January 14, 2021 at 4:31:32 AM UTC-8 Jason Kridner wrote: > >> Yeah, the PRUs are there, but hidden I guess for "support" reasons. I >> think TI isn't offering the firmware loads to support industrial protocols >> on this chip to the public. TI already makes a carrier board SOM. I want >> to make sure those people who have invested in the BeagleBone form-factor >> get pay-off with upgraded processing. I'm sure there is lots more that >> could be done with the TDA4VM. I'm going to try to see if I can at least >> get a fairly high-speed ribbon cable brought off, but things like PCIe will >> need to be muxed across type-C in this form-factor as best I can tell. >> >> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 9:19 PM Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Interesting…. It’s not in the functional diagram. Awesome that they are >>> there. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jan 13, 2021, at 8:52 PM, Raul Rathmann <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, what Vinicius said: >>> >>> From TD4VM doc at: https://www.ti.com/product/TDA4VM >>> >>> 7.11.5.24 PRU_ICSSG >>> The device has integrated two identical PRU_ICSSG subsystems (PRU_ICSSG0 >>> and PRU_ICSSG1). The programmable nature of the PRU cores, along with their >>> access to pins, events and all device resources, provides flexibility in >>> implementing fast real-time responses, specialized data handling >>> operations, custom peripheral interfaces, and in offloading tasks from the >>> other processor cores in the device. >>> >>> That TD4VM is a real beast. I really look forward to being able to use >>> the 64-bit ARM cores as the 32-bit Linux world seems to be fading a bit. I >>> also use the PRUs for low-level I/O, need that hard real-time access. >>> >>> I would really like to see a bunch more I/Os available. The Beaglebone >>> format is nice size-wise but really seems to constrict access to more of >>> the IO goodness. >>> >>> Maybe a carrier-board format similar to Pi Compute or Jetson? >>> >>> >>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 4:27:50 PM UTC-8 [email protected] >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I was looking the TD4VM and there is 2 prus :) >>>> >>>> Em qua., 13 de jan. de 2021 às 20:43, Vinicius Juvinski < >>>> [email protected]> escreveu: >>>> >>>>> I have the same question as you Daniel, >>>>> the PRU in my opinion is one of the most killer feature of beaglebone >>>>> and I'm already using BBAI Pru and the 4 PRU's on AI is extremely welcome. >>>>> Jason, any chance to have PRU with this revision 2 BBAI board? >>>>> >>>>> Em qua., 13 de jan. de 2021 às 20:38, Daniel Kulp <[email protected]> >>>>> escreveu: >>>>> >>>>>> The TDA4VM doesn't have PRU's. Does that mean use of PRU's is now >>>>>> "deprecated" and discouraged? >>>>>> >>>>>> Dan >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 at 1:43:02 PM UTC-5 Jason Kridner >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> BeagleV is something new in addition to BeagleBoard and BeagleBone >>>>>>> offerings from BeagleBoard.org. It is meant to address the needs >>>>>>> coming from the RISC-V community for a low-cost development board, >>>>>>> ultimately with a path to production. We still have a roadmap for >>>>>>> BeagleBone! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So, I'll share what I should have shared before, but am still >>>>>>> ironing out details on schedule as we are executing this... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's a minor tweak to BeagleBone AI rev A1a to rev A2, but I'm >>>>>>> not sure if it'll go into full production as we have started a rev B >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> the TDA4VM device from TI. It jumps to A72s and has better software >>>>>>> support >>>>>>> for the AI accelerators. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One project I'm most excited about is an update to BeagleBone Blue >>>>>>> (rev C, rev B used the smaller SIP but had unrelated issues that never >>>>>>> got >>>>>>> resolved and therefore never got released). I need some more stuff to be >>>>>>> released from TI to share more details there, but the motor drive >>>>>>> capability will be boosted to enable direct drive of BLDC quadrotors and >>>>>>> 3-phase steppers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And, I'm very, very excited about BeagleConnect technology being >>>>>>> worked on at https://github.com/jadonk/beagleconnect based on TI >>>>>>> CC1352. This still has a long way to productize, but it is really >>>>>>> interesting tech! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We also have some cool stuff being worked by BeagleBoard Compatible >>>>>>> makers in the BeagleBone space. For that matter, SeeedStudio BeagleBone >>>>>>> Green Gateway hasn't been out very long. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, the short answer is BeagleV an in-addition-to-BeagleBone >>>>>>> thing, not moving away from it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If interested in BeagleV, please register your interest at >>>>>>> BeagleV.org. If you already did so with Seeed, no need to replicate. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 8:39 AM [email protected] < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I got a mail message from seeed that introduced the BeagleV. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Although I am very hopeful for a complete opensource hardware and >>>>>>>> software platform, I noticed that the pin-layout and the compatibility >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> the ARM-Beagleboards has been abandoned. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also noticed on the specs that the GPIO pins could be used for >>>>>>>> any kind of communication protocol, be it UART, SPI, SDIO etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am currently using 3 UART ports on a BeagleBone to communicate >>>>>>>> with some peripherals. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would that still be possible in the new design? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also noted the RS485, or Canbus was not described in the IO. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can anyone involved in the design comment on these observations? >>>>>>>> (Why abandon the old pin layout, how to implement three UARTS or 2 >>>>>>>> I2C's, and why no CANBus availability) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>>> Johan Henselmans >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/3cc933a3-b647-4fe4-b24b-9ba03c478f1fn%40googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/3cc933a3-b647-4fe4-b24b-9ba03c478f1fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> https://beagleboard.org/about/jkridner - a 501c3 non-profit >>>>>>> educating around open hardware computing >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>>>>> --- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/63df07cc-33ac-4be3-8860-93111ccdf3c3n%40googlegroups.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/63df07cc-33ac-4be3-8860-93111ccdf3c3n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>> -- >>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/beagleboard/QRpeww8-HsU/unsubscribe. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/d39efbf2-b43c-40ea-9346-70753cec773fn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/d39efbf2-b43c-40ea-9346-70753cec773fn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Daniel Kulp >>> [email protected] - http://dankulp.com/blog >>> >>> -- >>> For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "BeagleBoard" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/61128CAB-563B-4FFB-A3A4-5492A5E3068A%40kulp.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/61128CAB-563B-4FFB-A3A4-5492A5E3068A%40kulp.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> >> >> -- >> https://beagleboard.org/about/jkridner - a 501c3 non-profit educating >> around open hardware computing >> > -- > For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "BeagleBoard" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/2d62e992-fb12-4d35-9371-86e238399014n%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/beagleboard/2d62e992-fb12-4d35-9371-86e238399014n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- https://beagleboard.org/about/jkridner - a 501c3 non-profit educating around open hardware computing -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. 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