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From: "Kenneth L Babcock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> Shedding/
Get a new vacum. Maybe two.

>is my home large enough/
Size is less of an issue than clutter (think of that tail--it is a coffee
table sweeper). And a bored Berner is a destructive dog; I am not walking my
crew right now because one of my dogs has a significant lameness and she
gets way too whipped up if I take the others out, which aggrevates her
problem. In the last two weeks Mic the Berner boy has eaten my tax papers,
trashed a pillow, dismembered an innocent baggie all over the living room
floor, and started picking fights with his sister Cassie the Rescue Pyr. I
am doing short obedience routines with him, and playing strenuous games like
tug of war, and he has acess 24/7 to the fenced yard . . . but he is highly
active and energetic and he wants MORE activity.

>temperment/
Varies quite a lot. Shyness and sharp-shyness (which leads to fear
aggression) is more common in this breed than a casual contact level person
might think; we also have some dogs which harken back to the farmyard
guardian days who exhibit some territorial aggression. This might not be the
most common temperment in this breed, but it is a substantial sub-set and
you should exercise caution when finding the right breeder for you. Make
sure you meet plenty of relatives and that they are the temperment you want.

>barking/
Mic is not the biggest barker in my house (I have Great Pyrenees for that!)
but what he (and many other Berners) will do is wait until you are trying to
pay attention to some task or program and then bark at you for attention. We
practice techniques like walking away, refusing to look at him, and
completely ignoring him when he does this sort of thing and it helps, but my
g** he is persistent.

>I'm told the berners are similar in temperment to the Golden?
I think Goldies in general are a little softer and easier in the personality
department. Obviously, temperments vary from dog to dog. However, something
about the Working breeds makes them a little harder to live with if they do
not have a job to do. I know I can't slack off with giving Mic things to do
for me or there is simply no living with him. Think, Type A person. There
are other Berners, like my friend Kathy's Max, who will tolerate anything
and everything and be extremely mellow. Again, meet the family and that will
help; Mic is not very like his mother, auntie and older sibling that I
met--he is like a rather difficult grandparent. I think Berners are a little
more needy than Goldies. They really want to be all over their people, all
the time.

You have not talked about health at all. That is a *very* important
consideration, especially given the amount of cancer in this breed. You
should make sure your breeder does some sort of hip and elbow certification
for displaysia, and it should be good or excellent in at least one,
preferably both, parents. She should be having CERF for the eyes. I strongly
recommend heart checks and also a check for Von Willibrand's disease. She
should be able to tell you what she is trying to accomplish with her litter.
She should be active in the National or local club. She should have someone
other than herself assessing the quality of her dogs to avoid kennel
blindness, preferably by showing the dogs to their Championships in
conformation and perhaps also some sort of performance, such as drafting or
obedience.

Eileen Morgan
March 30th Clinic Information: http://www.enter.net/~edlehman/USEAAR2.html
The Mare's Nest
http://www.enter.net/~edlehman


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