I added a jhs example: http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/User:Joe_Bogner/QtLayout
My little emulation layer is fragile and is meant more of a proof of concept instead of a drop-in for the qt layout engine. On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> wrote: > looks promising > > looking forward to download and try > > would be nice to have the same in jhs > On 27 Oct 2015 13:56, "Joe Bogner" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I also found it somewhat difficult to understand at first. I put a few >> hours into reading the documentation and playing and wrote a brief >> essay on it: http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/User:Joe_Bogner/QtLayout . >> Does this help answer some of your questions? >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> wrote: >> > When I put several objects on a form I have difficulty placing them >> whetre >> > I want. >> > When I have it close to what I want and want to put in more fields >> > everything can easily float into something that becomes a complete mess. >> > I am sure it possibly stays fixed once like it should be. >> > Getting the look I want has not been easy. >> > Sizes of fields difficult to change. >> > Simple things are possibly simple but combining stuff like plots, several >> > static output and inputs as well as buttons are not at all easy. >> > On 26 Oct 2015 23:01, "bill lam" <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> On the contrary, qt keeps fields in their right places regardless of >> >> screen size and screen orientation. >> >> >> >> I think that vb6 style form editor using absolute pixel positions had >> been >> >> deprecated in most modern gui system, not limiting to qt. >> >> >> >> Hypothetically, one can still control the exact position of placement >> >> within a window, eg using css in webpages, but it is incompatible with >> >> automatic layout of most gui systems. IMO it is better to use old gui >> >> system such j6 or vb6 rather than emulating using newer gui systems if >> >> absolute pixel xy position is what you wanted. >> >> On Oct 27, 2015 5:02 AM, "Björn Helgason" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> > looks ok. >> >> > >> >> > better still have the different fields not just left positioned. >> >> > the real problem in qt that they float around. >> >> > >> >> > I created something like this often in j6. >> >> > There are two example in wiki (or used to be) for this in j6. >> >> > >> >> > Should be (probably is) possible in jhs. >> >> > I have not done the plot parts there. >> >> > >> >> > In qt it is difficult to get the fields to stay in the right place. >> >> > On 26 Oct 2015 20:38, "Joe Bogner" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > Björn, >> >> > > >> >> > > Your requested interface is unclear to me >> >> > > >> >> > > You wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > > Two buttons each executing one of two lines of input. >> >> > > Output in one of two multi line fields. >> >> > > Other two buttons taking input and displaying plot in one of two >> >> fields. >> >> > > >> >> > > I'm interpreting this as: >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Cmd 1: _____________ [Button 1] >> >> > > Cmd 2 : _____________ [Button 2] >> >> > > >> >> > > Output 1: >> >> > > __________ >> >> > > __________ >> >> > > >> >> > > Output 2: >> >> > > __________ >> >> > > __________ >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Plot Cmd 1: ___________ [Plot Button 1] >> >> > > Plot Cmd 2: ___________ [Plot Button 2] >> >> > > >> >> > > +-------------------------------+ >> >> > > | | >> >> > > | PLOT 1 | >> >> > > | | >> >> > > +-------------------------------+ >> >> > > >> >> > > +-------------------------------+ >> >> > > | | >> >> > > | PLOT 2 | >> >> > > | | >> >> > > +-------------------------------+ >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Is this what you had in mind? If not, can you specify more clearly >> or >> >> > > ideally even create it in j6 since you say it is easy. >> >> > > >> >> > > I would be willing to try and create examples for jhs and jqt >> >> > > >> >> > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> > > > The gui part of an applications is very important. >> >> > > > I liked the form editor in J6 and miss it. >> >> > > > I looked forward to the new features that came with new guis and >> >> > > > possibilities. >> >> > > > The JHS is magnificient but the gui is not that easy to use. >> >> > > > The demos are interesting but not great. >> >> > > > The plot demo is totally useless and worse than none. >> >> > > > The others are too simple and too complex at the same time. >> >> > > > I am sure it is possible to do a demo like the one I want. >> >> > > > Nobody is doing one. >> >> > > > A lab describing it too is needed. >> >> > > > Nobody is doing one. >> >> > > > Because of this lack of demos and labs not many people do use it. >> >> > > > I have been meaning to for some time but never given it enough >> time. >> >> > > > For most people it is too difficult but for people like Eric it >> would >> >> > be >> >> > > > easy but he does not do one either as far as I know. >> >> > > > Combining the demos more or less into one. >> >> > > > I managed it partly and am sure it is possible. >> >> > > > Having problems with two plots together with the rest is what I >> need >> >> > time >> >> > > > for. >> >> > > > A workig plot demo preferably two plot demo with help texts. >> >> > > > Combinig them all in one with two working plots is what I want. >> >> > > > Explaing how it works is what I really want and I am sure I am not >> >> > alone. >> >> > > > A lab explaining it is what is missing. >> >> > > > I guess something like the form editor from J6 is too much to wish >> >> for. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > I am pretty sure noone could do one in qt nor android. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > I actually did try that but became convinced it is not possible. >> >> > > > Came close to do it partially but no cigar. >> >> > > > The demos are not easy to read and do not come close in beeing >> >> helpful. >> >> > > > Actually more confusing than helpful. >> >> > > > I am very disappointed in qt and do not see it becoming anything >> >> > useful. >> >> > > > I am sure it is good for someone and something. >> >> > > > I am just not happy with it. >> >> > > > On 24 Oct 2015 18:23, "Björn Helgason" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> It would be good to have a simple demo easy to create and use. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> One for android and another for jhs. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> The application should look the same in both. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Two buttons each executing one of two lines of input. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Output in one of two multi line fields. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Other two buttons taking input and displaying plot in one of two >> >> > fields. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Very simple instructions on how to create these demos. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> No fancy hidden cute execution. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Step by step description what each line is doing and why. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> The placement of each field, plots and buttons should be easy to >> >> place >> >> > > >> anywhere on the screen. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> This may not sound difficult for experienced user but for new >> user >> >> > this >> >> > > is >> >> > > >> really difficult or impossible but should not be. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> Some existings demos do parts of this but are mostly too >> difficult >> >> to >> >> > > >> understand. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> In J6 this used to be easy to do in J8 it is not. >> >> > > >> >> >> > > > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > > > For information about J forums see >> >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> >> > > >> 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