tried to copy the two examples on an android. the result was one long line each. copied from chrome to J file.
can not look at this closer until later. On 27 Oct 2015 13:56, "Joe Bogner" <[email protected]> wrote: > I also found it somewhat difficult to understand at first. I put a few > hours into reading the documentation and playing and wrote a brief > essay on it: http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/User:Joe_Bogner/QtLayout . > Does this help answer some of your questions? > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> wrote: > > When I put several objects on a form I have difficulty placing them > whetre > > I want. > > When I have it close to what I want and want to put in more fields > > everything can easily float into something that becomes a complete mess. > > I am sure it possibly stays fixed once like it should be. > > Getting the look I want has not been easy. > > Sizes of fields difficult to change. > > Simple things are possibly simple but combining stuff like plots, several > > static output and inputs as well as buttons are not at all easy. > > On 26 Oct 2015 23:01, "bill lam" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On the contrary, qt keeps fields in their right places regardless of > >> screen size and screen orientation. > >> > >> I think that vb6 style form editor using absolute pixel positions had > been > >> deprecated in most modern gui system, not limiting to qt. > >> > >> Hypothetically, one can still control the exact position of placement > >> within a window, eg using css in webpages, but it is incompatible with > >> automatic layout of most gui systems. IMO it is better to use old gui > >> system such j6 or vb6 rather than emulating using newer gui systems if > >> absolute pixel xy position is what you wanted. > >> On Oct 27, 2015 5:02 AM, "Björn Helgason" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > looks ok. > >> > > >> > better still have the different fields not just left positioned. > >> > the real problem in qt that they float around. > >> > > >> > I created something like this often in j6. > >> > There are two example in wiki (or used to be) for this in j6. > >> > > >> > Should be (probably is) possible in jhs. > >> > I have not done the plot parts there. > >> > > >> > In qt it is difficult to get the fields to stay in the right place. > >> > On 26 Oct 2015 20:38, "Joe Bogner" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > > Björn, > >> > > > >> > > Your requested interface is unclear to me > >> > > > >> > > You wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Two buttons each executing one of two lines of input. > >> > > Output in one of two multi line fields. > >> > > Other two buttons taking input and displaying plot in one of two > >> fields. > >> > > > >> > > I'm interpreting this as: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Cmd 1: _____________ [Button 1] > >> > > Cmd 2 : _____________ [Button 2] > >> > > > >> > > Output 1: > >> > > __________ > >> > > __________ > >> > > > >> > > Output 2: > >> > > __________ > >> > > __________ > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Plot Cmd 1: ___________ [Plot Button 1] > >> > > Plot Cmd 2: ___________ [Plot Button 2] > >> > > > >> > > +-------------------------------+ > >> > > | | > >> > > | PLOT 1 | > >> > > | | > >> > > +-------------------------------+ > >> > > > >> > > +-------------------------------+ > >> > > | | > >> > > | PLOT 2 | > >> > > | | > >> > > +-------------------------------+ > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Is this what you had in mind? If not, can you specify more clearly > or > >> > > ideally even create it in j6 since you say it is easy. > >> > > > >> > > I would be willing to try and create examples for jhs and jqt > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > The gui part of an applications is very important. > >> > > > I liked the form editor in J6 and miss it. > >> > > > I looked forward to the new features that came with new guis and > >> > > > possibilities. > >> > > > The JHS is magnificient but the gui is not that easy to use. > >> > > > The demos are interesting but not great. > >> > > > The plot demo is totally useless and worse than none. > >> > > > The others are too simple and too complex at the same time. > >> > > > I am sure it is possible to do a demo like the one I want. > >> > > > Nobody is doing one. > >> > > > A lab describing it too is needed. > >> > > > Nobody is doing one. > >> > > > Because of this lack of demos and labs not many people do use it. > >> > > > I have been meaning to for some time but never given it enough > time. > >> > > > For most people it is too difficult but for people like Eric it > would > >> > be > >> > > > easy but he does not do one either as far as I know. > >> > > > Combining the demos more or less into one. > >> > > > I managed it partly and am sure it is possible. > >> > > > Having problems with two plots together with the rest is what I > need > >> > time > >> > > > for. > >> > > > A workig plot demo preferably two plot demo with help texts. > >> > > > Combinig them all in one with two working plots is what I want. > >> > > > Explaing how it works is what I really want and I am sure I am not > >> > alone. > >> > > > A lab explaining it is what is missing. > >> > > > I guess something like the form editor from J6 is too much to wish > >> for. > >> > > > > >> > > > I am pretty sure noone could do one in qt nor android. > >> > > > > >> > > > I actually did try that but became convinced it is not possible. > >> > > > Came close to do it partially but no cigar. > >> > > > The demos are not easy to read and do not come close in beeing > >> helpful. > >> > > > Actually more confusing than helpful. > >> > > > I am very disappointed in qt and do not see it becoming anything > >> > useful. > >> > > > I am sure it is good for someone and something. > >> > > > I am just not happy with it. > >> > > > On 24 Oct 2015 18:23, "Björn Helgason" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > >> It would be good to have a simple demo easy to create and use. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> One for android and another for jhs. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> The application should look the same in both. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Two buttons each executing one of two lines of input. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Output in one of two multi line fields. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Other two buttons taking input and displaying plot in one of two > >> > fields. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Very simple instructions on how to create these demos. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> No fancy hidden cute execution. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Step by step description what each line is doing and why. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> The placement of each field, plots and buttons should be easy to > >> place > >> > > >> anywhere on the screen. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> This may not sound difficult for experienced user but for new > user > >> > this > >> > > is > >> > > >> really difficult or impossible but should not be. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Some existings demos do parts of this but are mostly too > difficult > >> to > >> > > >> understand. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> In J6 this used to be easy to do in J8 it is not. > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > > For information about J forums see > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
