android On 28 Oct 2015 10:13, "bill lam" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Which email client are you using? > > Ср, 28 окт 2015, Björn Helgason написал(а): > > looks like this: > > > > idUI =: 0 addUI =: 3 : 0 if. 2=(#y) do. 'type text' =. y end. if. 3=(#y) > > do. 'type text cellwh' =. y end. id =. 'ux', ": idUI NB. grid cell can't > be > > called in razed grid NB. wd 'grid cell ', pos NB. maxwh needs to be > called > > before cc but on the cell if. 3=(#y) do. wd cellwh end. wd 'cc ', id , ' > > ',type if. (#text) > 0 do. wd 'set ', id , ' text ', text end. > idUI=:idUI+1 > > id ) NB. ========================================================= grid=: > > 3 : 0 wd 'pc grid' wd 'grid size 3 3' NB. optional to show how columns > > widths can be specified wd 'grid colwidth 0 100' wd 'grid colwidth 2 100' > > addUI 'static';'Cmd 1' addUI 'edit';'Grid/Bin Layout' addUI 'button';'Run > > Cmd 1' addUI 'static';'Cmd 2' addUI 'edit';'' addUI 'button';'Run Cmd 2' > > NB. need to end previous grid and start a vertical bin wd 'bin zv' addUI > > 'static';'Output 1' addUI 'editm';'Output 1';'maxwh 1000 75' addUI > > 'static';'Output 2' addUI 'editm';'Output 2';'maxwh 1000 75' NB. stop > > previous vertical bin and create new vertical grid wd 'bin zvg' wd 'grid > > size 3 3' wd 'grid colwidth 0 100' wd 'grid colwidth 2 100' addUI > > 'static';'Plot Cmd 1' addUI 'edit';'' addUI 'button';'Run Cmd 1' addUI > > 'static';'Plot Cmd 2' addUI 'edit';'' addUI 'button';'Run Cmd 2' NB. need > > to end previous grid and start a vertical bin wd 'bin zv' addUI > > 'isigraph';'';'minwh 500 100' addUI 'isigraph';'';'minwh 500 100' wd > > 'pshow' ) NB. ========================================================= > > grid_close=: 3 : 0 wd 'pclose' ) NB. > > ========================================================= grid'' > > On 27 Oct 2015 20:11, [email protected] wrote: > > > > tried to copy the two examples on an android. > > the result was one long line each. > > copied from chrome to J file. > > > > can not look at this closer until later. > > On 27 Oct 2015 13:56, "Joe Bogner" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I also found it somewhat difficult to understand at first. I put a few > > hours into reading the documentation and playing and wrote a brief > > essay on it: http://code.jsoftware.com/wiki/User:Joe_Bogner/QtLayout . > > Does this help answer some of your questions? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > When I put several objects on a form I have difficulty placing them > whetre > > > I want. > > > When I have it close to what I want and want to put in more fields > > > everything can easily float into something that becomes a complete > mess. > > > I am sure it possibly stays fixed once like it should be. > > > Getting the look I want has not been easy. > > > Sizes of fields difficult to change. > > > Simple things are possibly simple but combining stuff like plots, > several > > > static output and inputs as well as buttons are not at all easy. > > > On 26 Oct 2015 23:01, "bill lam" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> On the contrary, qt keeps fields in their right places regardless of > > >> screen size and screen orientation. > > >> > > >> I think that vb6 style form editor using absolute pixel positions had > > been > > >> deprecated in most modern gui system, not limiting to qt. > > >> > > >> Hypothetically, one can still control the exact position of placement > > >> within a window, eg using css in webpages, but it is incompatible with > > >> automatic layout of most gui systems. IMO it is better to use old gui > > >> system such j6 or vb6 rather than emulating using newer gui systems if > > >> absolute pixel xy position is what you wanted. > > >> On Oct 27, 2015 5:02 AM, "Björn Helgason" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > >> > looks ok. > > >> > > > >> > better still have the different fields not just left positioned. > > >> > the real problem in qt that they float around. > > >> > > > >> > I created something like this often in j6. > > >> > There are two example in wiki (or used to be) for this in j6. > > >> > > > >> > Should be (probably is) possible in jhs. > > >> > I have not done the plot parts there. > > >> > > > >> > In qt it is difficult to get the fields to stay in the right place. > > >> > On 26 Oct 2015 20:38, "Joe Bogner" <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > Björn, > > >> > > > > >> > > Your requested interface is unclear to me > > >> > > > > >> > > You wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Two buttons each executing one of two lines of input. > > >> > > Output in one of two multi line fields. > > >> > > Other two buttons taking input and displaying plot in one of two > > >> fields. > > >> > > > > >> > > I'm interpreting this as: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Cmd 1: _____________ [Button 1] > > >> > > Cmd 2 : _____________ [Button 2] > > >> > > > > >> > > Output 1: > > >> > > __________ > > >> > > __________ > > >> > > > > >> > > Output 2: > > >> > > __________ > > >> > > __________ > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Plot Cmd 1: ___________ [Plot Button 1] > > >> > > Plot Cmd 2: ___________ [Plot Button 2] > > >> > > > > >> > > +-------------------------------+ > > >> > > | | > > >> > > | PLOT 1 | > > >> > > | | > > >> > > +-------------------------------+ > > >> > > > > >> > > +-------------------------------+ > > >> > > | | > > >> > > | PLOT 2 | > > >> > > | | > > >> > > +-------------------------------+ > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Is this what you had in mind? If not, can you specify more > clearly or > > >> > > ideally even create it in j6 since you say it is easy. > > >> > > > > >> > > I would be willing to try and create examples for jhs and jqt > > >> > > > > >> > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 3:50 PM, Björn Helgason <[email protected] > > > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > The gui part of an applications is very important. > > >> > > > I liked the form editor in J6 and miss it. > > >> > > > I looked forward to the new features that came with new guis and > > >> > > > possibilities. > > >> > > > The JHS is magnificient but the gui is not that easy to use. > > >> > > > The demos are interesting but not great. > > >> > > > The plot demo is totally useless and worse than none. > > >> > > > The others are too simple and too complex at the same time. > > >> > > > I am sure it is possible to do a demo like the one I want. > > >> > > > Nobody is doing one. > > >> > > > A lab describing it too is needed. > > >> > > > Nobody is doing one. > > >> > > > Because of this lack of demos and labs not many people do use > it. > > >> > > > I have been meaning to for some time but never given it enough > > time. > > >> > > > For most people it is too difficult but for people like Eric it > > would > > >> > be > > >> > > > easy but he does not do one either as far as I know. > > >> > > > Combining the demos more or less into one. > > >> > > > I managed it partly and am sure it is possible. > > >> > > > Having problems with two plots together with the rest is what I > > need > > >> > time > > >> > > > for. > > >> > > > A workig plot demo preferably two plot demo with help texts. > > >> > > > Combinig them all in one with two working plots is what I want. > > >> > > > Explaing how it works is what I really want and I am sure I am > not > > >> > alone. > > >> > > > A lab explaining it is what is missing. > > >> > > > I guess something like the form editor from J6 is too much to > wish > > >> for. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I am pretty sure noone could do one in qt nor android. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > I actually did try that but became convinced it is not possible. > > >> > > > Came close to do it partially but no cigar. > > >> > > > The demos are not easy to read and do not come close in beeing > > >> helpful. > > >> > > > Actually more confusing than helpful. > > >> > > > I am very disappointed in qt and do not see it becoming anything > > >> > useful. > > >> > > > I am sure it is good for someone and something. > > >> > > > I am just not happy with it. > > >> > > > On 24 Oct 2015 18:23, "Björn Helgason" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > >> It would be good to have a simple demo easy to create and use. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> One for android and another for jhs. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> The application should look the same in both. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Two buttons each executing one of two lines of input. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Output in one of two multi line fields. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Other two buttons taking input and displaying plot in one of > two > > >> > fields. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Very simple instructions on how to create these demos. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> No fancy hidden cute execution. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Step by step description what each line is doing and why. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> The placement of each field, plots and buttons should be easy > to > > >> place > > >> > > >> anywhere on the screen. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> This may not sound difficult for experienced user but for new > user > > >> > this > > >> > > is > > >> > > >> really difficult or impossible but should not be. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Some existings demos do parts of this but are mostly too > difficult > > >> to > > >> > > >> understand. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> In J6 this used to be easy to do in J8 it is not. > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> > > > For 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