So...

I've gotten part way into implementing this "less explicit atomic
representation" concept, and I've run into to pain points -- routines
I think I want which I think should already be implemented as a part
of the direct definition implementation:

(1) A routine which extracts the reserved names referenced in a
definition (from mnuvxy), and

(2) A routine which extracts the monad/dyad boxed pair from the string
representation of a definition.

And, since I'm trying to build a J model, I of course want J
implementations of these things.

Before I dive too deep into this (I'll need to build a mini recursive
descent parser as the basis for both of these)... do these j models
exist already?

Thanks,

-- 
Raul

On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:02 PM Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hmm... actually, this might mean something new -- this approach
> suggests delving into the atomic rep, finding the explicit definitions
> and converting them to dd.
>
> But that implies a less explicit ar which can directly represent a
> direct definition.  So, for example, making a '{{' token which has a
> modifier indicating type (for example )a or )v or whatever), followed
> by the direct definition text. Probably followed by an inert '}}'
> token to make the ddrep implementation simpler...
>
> I would definitely want Eric to weigh in on a design change that hits
> the system this deeply.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 10:44 PM Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > The lrep code does look a bit complicated.
> >
> > Probably the right place to start here would be to take the j model
> > for lrep (at https://www.jsoftware.com/ioj/iojRep.htm) and build a j
> > model for ddrep.
> >
> > I'll see if I can figure that out, but I don't know how long it'll
> > take me to digest the issues.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --
> > Raul
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2020 at 10:36 PM Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > 2.  I agree completely, and was planning to add this at some point after
> > > DD has been finalized.
> > >
> > > If you want to get into modifying the JE, talk to Eric. Representations
> > > are something I don't know very well - all I know is summarized in the
> > > comments I have added - so we would be on equal footing.
> > >
> > > Henry Rich
> > >
> > > On 10/26/2020 9:05 PM, Raul Miller wrote:
> > > > There are two things I would like to see for direct definition which
> > > > are not currently implemented. I do not know if these have any
> > > > roadblocks.( If they do have roadblocks, I would like to understand
> > > > these blocking issues.)
> > > >
> > > > [1]  Syntax highlighting.  Currently, jqt uses a different color for
> > > > {{ than for }} in multiline direct definitions. (jhs does not have
> > > > this issue.)
> > > >
> > > > [2] Representation. I would very much like a variant on 5!:5 which
> > > > produces a direct definition form which is analogous to linear
> > > > representation except that it uses direct definition rather than
> > > > explicit definition. (Name use conflicts could be handled by replacing
> > > > n=. with 'n'=. and replacing other uses of n with ('n'~), and of
> > > > course the same for other reserved names.)
> > > >
> > > > My primary use of this representation would be in J's default display 
> > > > (9!:3).
> > > >
> > > > If you think I should tackle these myself, I guess I can try (though I
> > > > suspect I would goof up on my first attempt, and I do not know where
> > > > jqt's syntax highlighting code is located).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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