I strongly dislike NuVoc.  The original help pages were much cleaner and easier 
to navigate.

There is a nice Wikibook on the Ada programming language: 
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ada_Programming

It would be nice to see the J Wikibook 
(https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Software_Engineers_Handbook/Language_Dictionary/J)
 expanded into something similar.  That would be helpful for encouraging people 
to try J.
Software Engineers Handbook/Language Dictionary/J - Wikibooks, open books for 
an open 
world<https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Software_Engineers_Handbook/Language_Dictionary/J>
J []. J is not Java. It is an ASCII decendant of APL. Here is the wikipedia 
entry.. The software is free as of this writing, and available at the J 
software page. Type []. J is an array oriented functional language.
en.wikibooks.org


--- Brian McGuinness

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From: Beta <[email protected]> on behalf of Raul Miller 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 2:50 PM
To: Beta forum <[email protected]>
Subject: [External]Re: [Jbeta] Error in min and max (<.) function

Yes -- and you did actually express the reason, it's spelled out on
the page on extended and rational arithmetic (which is becoming
increasingly difficult to find, what with the nuvoc changes):
https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsoftware.com%2Fhelp%2Fdictionary%2Fdictg.htm&amp;data=04%7C01%7Cmcguinne%40fdu.edu%7Cc990372a2c484266939b08d8c233c54f%7C3224fad94bcc4d47ae9886ea3c6b3b13%7C1%7C0%7C637472874909008277%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&amp;sdata=Dvor6%2FhBzkClqpJUGZH40i4g4oEiC9%2FmlVwgzPY%2BNQA%3D&amp;reserved=0

Thanks,

--
Raul

On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:44 PM Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ah, I stand corrected.  There _are_ rational infinities, but you have to
> make them deliberately using x: (or some other means).  e.g.
>
>    (x: _) <.
> 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239x
> 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239
>
>    (x: __) >.
> 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239x
> 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239
>
> I should have thought more before I wrote my first reply.  For % to be
> closed on rationals rational infinities are required.
>
>    % 0 3r4
> _ 4r3
>    3!:0 % 0 3r4
> 128
>
> Sorry.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:33 AM 'Sergey Kamenev' via Beta <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I make calculations on elliptic curves on finite fields.
> > In elliptic curves exists so-called "point in infinity".
> >
> > This is how I noticed this problem.
> >
> > 26.01.2021 18:52, Roger Hui пишет:
> > > The reason for these results, dating from very early days and old old
> > > versions, is that there are no rational or extended integer infinities.
> > In
> > > float F rat (or rat F float), the rule is to convert the rat into a
> > float,
> > > and then apply the F.  Therefore the results in your message are
> > "correct".
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:16 AM 'Sergey Kamenev' via Beta <
> > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi!
> > >>
> > >> Min and Max function makes unnecessary conversion of type when compared
> > to
> > >> infinity and loses significant information.
> > >>
> > >> Example:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _ <.
> > >>
> > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239x
> > >> 8.31216e76
> > >>
> > >> Should be:
> > >>
> > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239
> > >>
> > >> __ >.
> > >>
> > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239x
> > >>
> > >> 8.31216e76
> > >>
> > >> Should be:
> > >>
> > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239
> > >>
> > >> Nice day!
> > >> Sergey
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