I strongly dislike NuVoc. The original help pages were much cleaner and easier to navigate.
There is a nice Wikibook on the Ada programming language: https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Ada_Programming It would be nice to see the J Wikibook (https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Software_Engineers_Handbook/Language_Dictionary/J) expanded into something similar. That would be helpful for encouraging people to try J. Software Engineers Handbook/Language Dictionary/J - Wikibooks, open books for an open world<https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Software_Engineers_Handbook/Language_Dictionary/J> J []. J is not Java. It is an ASCII decendant of APL. Here is the wikipedia entry.. The software is free as of this writing, and available at the J software page. Type []. J is an array oriented functional language. en.wikibooks.org --- Brian McGuinness ________________________________ From: Beta <[email protected]> on behalf of Raul Miller <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 2:50 PM To: Beta forum <[email protected]> Subject: [External]Re: [Jbeta] Error in min and max (<.) function Yes -- and you did actually express the reason, it's spelled out on the page on extended and rational arithmetic (which is becoming increasingly difficult to find, what with the nuvoc changes): https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsoftware.com%2Fhelp%2Fdictionary%2Fdictg.htm&data=04%7C01%7Cmcguinne%40fdu.edu%7Cc990372a2c484266939b08d8c233c54f%7C3224fad94bcc4d47ae9886ea3c6b3b13%7C1%7C0%7C637472874909008277%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Dvor6%2FhBzkClqpJUGZH40i4g4oEiC9%2FmlVwgzPY%2BNQA%3D&reserved=0 Thanks, -- Raul On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 1:44 PM Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote: > > Ah, I stand corrected. There _are_ rational infinities, but you have to > make them deliberately using x: (or some other means). e.g. > > (x: _) <. > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239x > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239 > > (x: __) >. > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239x > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239 > > I should have thought more before I wrote my first reply. For % to be > closed on rationals rational infinities are required. > > % 0 3r4 > _ 4r3 > 3!:0 % 0 3r4 > 128 > > Sorry. > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 10:33 AM 'Sergey Kamenev' via Beta < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > I make calculations on elliptic curves on finite fields. > > In elliptic curves exists so-called "point in infinity". > > > > This is how I noticed this problem. > > > > 26.01.2021 18:52, Roger Hui пишет: > > > The reason for these results, dating from very early days and old old > > > versions, is that there are no rational or extended integer infinities. > > In > > > float F rat (or rat F float), the rule is to convert the rat into a > > float, > > > and then apply the F. Therefore the results in your message are > > "correct". > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 3:16 AM 'Sergey Kamenev' via Beta < > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Hi! > > >> > > >> Min and Max function makes unnecessary conversion of type when compared > > to > > >> infinity and loses significant information. > > >> > > >> Example: > > >> > > >> > > >> _ <. > > >> > > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239x > > >> 8.31216e76 > > >> > > >> Should be: > > >> > > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239 > > >> > > >> __ >. > > >> > > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239x > > >> > > >> 8.31216e76 > > >> > > >> Should be: > > >> > > 83121579216557378445487899878180864668798711284981320763518679672151497189239 > > >> > > >> Nice day! > > >> Sergey > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >> For information about J forums see > > >> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsoftware.com%2Fforums.htm&data=04%7C01%7Cmcguinne%40fdu.edu%7Cc990372a2c484266939b08d8c233c54f%7C3224fad94bcc4d47ae9886ea3c6b3b13%7C1%7C0%7C637472874909008277%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=GFzOUlPmjP1B1IOTlJCCco4j2ewNky%2BqvZqGw7Nmo1k%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see > > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsoftware.com%2Fforums.htm&data=04%7C01%7Cmcguinne%40fdu.edu%7Cc990372a2c484266939b08d8c233c54f%7C3224fad94bcc4d47ae9886ea3c6b3b13%7C1%7C0%7C637472874909008277%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=GFzOUlPmjP1B1IOTlJCCco4j2ewNky%2BqvZqGw7Nmo1k%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see > > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsoftware.com%2Fforums.htm&data=04%7C01%7Cmcguinne%40fdu.edu%7Cc990372a2c484266939b08d8c233c54f%7C3224fad94bcc4d47ae9886ea3c6b3b13%7C1%7C0%7C637472874909008277%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=GFzOUlPmjP1B1IOTlJCCco4j2ewNky%2BqvZqGw7Nmo1k%3D&reserved=0 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see > https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsoftware.com%2Fforums.htm&data=04%7C01%7Cmcguinne%40fdu.edu%7Cc990372a2c484266939b08d8c233c54f%7C3224fad94bcc4d47ae9886ea3c6b3b13%7C1%7C0%7C637472874909008277%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=GFzOUlPmjP1B1IOTlJCCco4j2ewNky%2BqvZqGw7Nmo1k%3D&reserved=0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jsoftware.com%2Fforums.htm&data=04%7C01%7Cmcguinne%40fdu.edu%7Cc990372a2c484266939b08d8c233c54f%7C3224fad94bcc4d47ae9886ea3c6b3b13%7C1%7C0%7C637472874909008277%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=GFzOUlPmjP1B1IOTlJCCco4j2ewNky%2BqvZqGw7Nmo1k%3D&reserved=0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
