After matching side by side screenshots between Mac and Windows in beta w, it is seen that Mac fonts are displayed correcly (as it was fixed in an earlier beta).
There is now a wiki page to collect screenshots and discuss this issue. http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/System/Beta/Font_Size Mac screenshots clearly show nicely the font sizes match. Compare with Linux results. --- Oleg Kobchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I just ran beta w on Linux and the results are > the same as on previous beta: the sizes do not > match with Windows. > > To reproduce (it easier, of you run Linux in Virtual PC): > > - On Linux run fontfit.ijs (Arial will map to SansSerif--OK) > from http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Scripts/Font_Fit > - take a screenshot > > - open it on Windows in Paint > - deselect Draw Opaque under Image menu > - select the Text tool and next to the line "Arial 13pt" > type the same text and select font Arial 13pt > - Line up the baselines > > - As a result: Linux text at 13pt will be 2px shorter at the top > of small letters, and 4px shorter at the top of capitals > > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/OlegKobchenko?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=font_lin-win2.png > > > > --- Eric Iverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I've run win, win64, linux, linux64, and mac with the same screen > > switched between them at 1280*1024 (LCD 19 real inches diagonal). > > > > Here are the isigraph pixel heights for each point size on each > > platform: > > > > 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 - point size > > 15 16 17 18 19 22 23 - win jwdw > > 14 15 16 18 20 21 23 - win jwdp (java 1.4) > > 14 15 16 18 20 21 23 - win64 jwdp (java 1.5) > > 14 15 17 19 21 22 23 - linux (java 1.4) > > 14 15 17 19 21 22 23 - linux64 (java 1.5) > > 12 13 14 16 17 18 20 - mac (java 1.4) > > > > Comparisons with 45 lines on windows with notepad are exact at 12pt and > > vary a little bit over the range. > > > > At least in my test environment the linux results look OK. Comparing > > with various linux text editors show quite a range in ideas of 12pt > > though generally they are a bit larger than J. > > > > The mac results are a bit small. But compared to other text apps on the > > Mac they tend to be about right or even a bit large. > > > > The screen rendered size is somewhat arbitrary and is stated to not be > > exact. Everyone has there own ideas. In general Mac favors small, > > Windows medium, and Linux large. > > > > Examples and insight welcome. Note that comparisons with other than > > 1280*1024 on a roughly similar size screen introduce too many variables > > to be usefull in doing any tweaking. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Oleg Kobchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Beta forum" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:47 AM > > Subject: [Jbeta] Font sizes for Linux > > > > > > >I had a look at Linux with beta v and it > > > seems like it has the same font size problem > > > that is now fixed for Mac. > > > > > > See the screenshot, which compares fonts in > > > J session, a font sampler and Mozilla, etc. browsers. > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/OlegKobchenko?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=font_linux.png > > > > > > If the same phenomenon is visible on other systems > > > (that J fonts at size 13 look like 10pt in a browser), > > > then its the same problem as was fixed for Mac. > > > > > > On Windows, the fonts in Java are OK. > > > > > > > > > --- Oleg Kobchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >> j601 t beta issues > > > ... > > >> * Mac fonts are smaller than Windows fonts, to be exact > > >> The ratio reflects 96/72 DPI between Windows and Mac > > >> As a result, fonts are disproportional to geometry > > >> as shown in Plot demo. Grid uses some magic so > > >> that fonts fit, but that may be non-standard ... > > > > > > <html><head></head> > > > <body> > > > <p>Open in Mozilla (Firefox, Epiphany) and compare with J font > > > sizes</p> > > > <hr /> > > > > > > <div style="font:10pt Arial"> > > > Focus 0. font:10pt Arial > > > </div> > > > > > > <div style="font:10px Arial"> > > > Focus 0. font:10px Arial > > > </div> > > > <hr /> > > > > > > <p>15*4%3 = 20</p> > > > > > > <div style="font:15pt Arial"> > > > Focus 0. font:15pt Arial > > > </div> > > > > > > <div style="font:20px Arial"> > > > Focus 0. font:20px Arial > > > </div> > > > </body> > > > </html> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
