I just ran beta w on Linux and the results are the same as on previous beta: the sizes do not match with Windows.
To reproduce (it easier, of you run Linux in Virtual PC): - On Linux run fontfit.ijs (Arial will map to SansSerif--OK) from http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/Scripts/Font_Fit - take a screenshot - open it on Windows in Paint - deselect Draw Opaque under Image menu - select the Text tool and next to the line "Arial 13pt" type the same text and select font Arial 13pt - Line up the baselines - As a result: Linux text at 13pt will be 2px shorter at the top of small letters, and 4px shorter at the top of capitals http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/OlegKobchenko?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=font_lin-win2.png --- Eric Iverson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've run win, win64, linux, linux64, and mac with the same screen > switched between them at 1280*1024 (LCD 19 real inches diagonal). > > Here are the isigraph pixel heights for each point size on each > platform: > > 09 10 11 12 13 14 15 - point size > 15 16 17 18 19 22 23 - win jwdw > 14 15 16 18 20 21 23 - win jwdp (java 1.4) > 14 15 16 18 20 21 23 - win64 jwdp (java 1.5) > 14 15 17 19 21 22 23 - linux (java 1.4) > 14 15 17 19 21 22 23 - linux64 (java 1.5) > 12 13 14 16 17 18 20 - mac (java 1.4) > > Comparisons with 45 lines on windows with notepad are exact at 12pt and > vary a little bit over the range. > > At least in my test environment the linux results look OK. Comparing > with various linux text editors show quite a range in ideas of 12pt > though generally they are a bit larger than J. > > The mac results are a bit small. But compared to other text apps on the > Mac they tend to be about right or even a bit large. > > The screen rendered size is somewhat arbitrary and is stated to not be > exact. Everyone has there own ideas. In general Mac favors small, > Windows medium, and Linux large. > > Examples and insight welcome. Note that comparisons with other than > 1280*1024 on a roughly similar size screen introduce too many variables > to be usefull in doing any tweaking. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Oleg Kobchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Beta forum" <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:47 AM > Subject: [Jbeta] Font sizes for Linux > > > >I had a look at Linux with beta v and it > > seems like it has the same font size problem > > that is now fixed for Mac. > > > > See the screenshot, which compares fonts in > > J session, a font sampler and Mozilla, etc. browsers. > > http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/OlegKobchenko?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=font_linux.png > > > > If the same phenomenon is visible on other systems > > (that J fonts at size 13 look like 10pt in a browser), > > then its the same problem as was fixed for Mac. > > > > On Windows, the fonts in Java are OK. > > > > > > --- Oleg Kobchenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> j601 t beta issues > > ... > >> * Mac fonts are smaller than Windows fonts, to be exact > >> The ratio reflects 96/72 DPI between Windows and Mac > >> As a result, fonts are disproportional to geometry > >> as shown in Plot demo. Grid uses some magic so > >> that fonts fit, but that may be non-standard ... > > > > <html><head></head> > > <body> > > <p>Open in Mozilla (Firefox, Epiphany) and compare with J font > > sizes</p> > > <hr /> > > > > <div style="font:10pt Arial"> > > Focus 0. font:10pt Arial > > </div> > > > > <div style="font:10px Arial"> > > Focus 0. font:10px Arial > > </div> > > <hr /> > > > > <p>15*4%3 = 20</p> > > > > <div style="font:15pt Arial"> > > Focus 0. font:15pt Arial > > </div> > > > > <div style="font:20px Arial"> > > Focus 0. font:20px Arial > > </div> > > </body> > > </html> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
