I'm not asking for development beyond just keeping up with Microsoft's changes that break old code.
Would it be reasonable to release the source code for jexe to the user community to support, when support from Jsoftware is to be curtailed? Henry Rich Eric Iverson wrote: > Both j.exe and j.jar will be available with j701. I can't promise no work to > migrate, but it should not be too bad. But new development is unlikely. > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:13 PM, Henry Rich <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I can tell you for sure that at least one user is going to cry over the >> fading of jexe. For some applications I just can't let it go. >> >> For my trading application, I worry about the responsiveness of a >> browser. Firefox consumes vast amounts of memory and seems to run the >> CPU usage up to 100% for up to 10 minutes (!!) after a tab is deleted, >> depending on what the page was. In general, trying to share a browser >> with anything else is fraught with peril. >> >> Another large application I have deployed is a tournament-management >> system for highschool quiz tournaments. This is a place where novice >> users have to be protected from all possible mistakes, and where hitting >> the Back button could be a disaster. jexe lets me put up forms that >> have complete control of the system. I'm not sure how I would do that >> safely under a browser; and again, accurate timing is vital, and I don't >> know how I can manage that either. >> >> On the other hand, the new verb-conjugation game we are working on is a >> natural browser/server application. So I'd say bring on the new >> interface, but don't drop support on jexe. Maybe it won't be enhanced, >> but it should be supported on future versions of Windows. >> >> Henry Rich >> >> Eric Iverson wrote: >>> Thanks for the feedback. Your suggestions warrant investigation. The key >>> point is that with the power of html/css/javascript everything you >> suggest >>> (and too much more) is easy to do. >>> >>> Although the eventual usability of jfile is very important, I suggest >> that >>> we take it as a given that it can and will be done. For now it might be >>> better to focus on bigger issues. Is this a fruitful direction? Are users >>> going to cry over the fading of j.exe? Are J users going to embrace >> enough >>> html/css/javascript to make there own GUI applications? Have browser >>> standards converged enough that this route provides very good >>> portability. Etc. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Sherlock, Ric < >> [email protected]>wrote: >>>>> From: Eric Iverson >>>> > >>>>> The official J701 beta program starts now. >>>>> >>>>> See the beta page at the http://www.jsoftware.com >>>>> (Systems > Download and then on the right Other Versions > Beta) >>>>> >>>>> This announcement to programming, but all discussion should take place >>>>> in the beta forum. >>>> 32-bit Windows version installs fine. >>>> The ability to display inline plots (SVG & PDF) in the log is a nice >> taste >>>> of things to come. >>>> >>>> The functionality of the jfile window is a nice improvement. It is much >>>> easier to navigate using the keyboard and takes fewer "clicks" to get >> things >>>> done. >>>> >>>> Some more work formatting the jfile window will help convey the function >> of >>>> the various bits. >>>> * the currently selected file/folder should be more prominent and a >>>> mouse-over tool tip could provide some feedback on what it is. >>>> * The "buttons" (links that fire the goaction verb) should be >>>> differentiated from "shortcuts" (links that fire the gosh, gofo or gofi >>>> verbs). The former could be formatted to look like buttons. >>>> * the functionality of the "new_name" button might be clearer if it was >>>> called "rename_to" >>>> * IMO it would be more natural for the ".." link to appear as the first >>>> item in the listing of the current folder, rather than as part of the >> list >>>> of shortcuts. >>>> >>>> * It seems to me that it would be useful to group the various distinct >>>> parts of the page in <div> tags to aid with CSS formatting. >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >>> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
