Where can I find an explanation of "stick with jl.exe and j.jar"?  Assume I'm a 
beginner.  Kip Murray

Eric Iverson wrote:
> jhs is just another way to interface with J. It may not suit your needs. The
> new jgtk interface will perhaps be more to your taste as it will be similar
> to the traditional j.exe and j.jar, but with far more GUI capabilities and
> features and will be part of the larger GTK development efforts. Or has been
> pointed out several times, you can just stick with jl.exe and j.jar.
> 
> You change browser configuration depending on  your browser and platform.
> Perhaps you should just continue with J602 and wait for the jgtk 701
> release.
> 
> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Murray Eisenberg 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
>> First, a question: How do I (easily, I hope) change the font size in the
>> browser window -- without, of course, resorting to changing the
>> browser's own magnification/zoom factor?
>>
>> In J6, this was easy and obvious -- the same sort of way as with
>> changing configs of most programs: From the Edit menu item, select
>> Configure. Then use a completely intuitive GUI dialog to change things.
>>
>> Second, some comments: Restricting things to a browser interface alone
>> is the wrong way to go -- driven more, I fear, by the desire to minimize
>> development effort than out of any actual improvement in the user
>> interface.
>>
>> I find everything harder to do with the J701 browser front end than with
>> the J6 (and earlier) j.exe GUI.
>>
>> And I've tried working with 701, even in the earlier pre-beta "concept"
>> version, and find it quite obvious that it is NOT mere novelty or
>> unfamiliarity with the new interface. Indeed, I use many different kinds
>> of programs on a daily basis, and nothing so far even approaches the
>> clumsiness of J701's interface.
>>
>> Unless there are dramatic improvements in usability, I am very likely to
>> give up J entirely.  And as a user of J from its beginning, and of APL
>> before that, that is something I would not do lightly or happily.
>>
>> Murray
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