Thanks, Eric.  Kip

Eric Iverson wrote:
> j.exe is the current j602 windows front end (docs refer to this as  Jwdw).
> 
> j.jar is the current j602 Java front end for non-windows systems that is
> equivalent to the windows front end (docs refer to this as Jwdp).
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Kip Murray <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Where can I find an explanation of "stick with jl.exe and j.jar"?  Assume
>> I'm a
>> beginner.  Kip Murray
>>
>> Eric Iverson wrote:
>>> jhs is just another way to interface with J. It may not suit your needs.
>> The
>>> new jgtk interface will perhaps be more to your taste as it will be
>> similar
>>> to the traditional j.exe and j.jar, but with far more GUI capabilities
>> and
>>> features and will be part of the larger GTK development efforts. Or has
>> been
>>> pointed out several times, you can just stick with jl.exe and j.jar.
>>>
>>> You change browser configuration depending on  your browser and platform.
>>> Perhaps you should just continue with J602 and wait for the jgtk 701
>>> release.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Murray Eisenberg <
>> [email protected]>wrote:
>>>> First, a question: How do I (easily, I hope) change the font size in the
>>>> browser window -- without, of course, resorting to changing the
>>>> browser's own magnification/zoom factor?
>>>>
>>>> In J6, this was easy and obvious -- the same sort of way as with
>>>> changing configs of most programs: From the Edit menu item, select
>>>> Configure. Then use a completely intuitive GUI dialog to change things.
>>>>
>>>> Second, some comments: Restricting things to a browser interface alone
>>>> is the wrong way to go -- driven more, I fear, by the desire to minimize
>>>> development effort than out of any actual improvement in the user
>>>> interface.
>>>>
>>>> I find everything harder to do with the J701 browser front end than with
>>>> the J6 (and earlier) j.exe GUI.
>>>>
>>>> And I've tried working with 701, even in the earlier pre-beta "concept"
>>>> version, and find it quite obvious that it is NOT mere novelty or
>>>> unfamiliarity with the new interface. Indeed, I use many different kinds
>>>> of programs on a daily basis, and nothing so far even approaches the
>>>> clumsiness of J701's interface.
>>>>
>>>> Unless there are dramatic improvements in usability, I am very likely to
>>>> give up J entirely.  And as a user of J from its beginning, and of APL
>>>> before that, that is something I would not do lightly or happily.
>>>>
>>>> Murray
>>>> --
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