What's so difficult about having profilex? Seems pretty simple to me. On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Eric Iverson <[email protected]>wrote:
> There is some chance profilex will be resurrected and Chris and I will be > discusing this. I suggest relaxing and waiting to see what happens in the > next beta release. > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Joey K Tuttle <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In earlier systems, I did hack profile.ijs to load my personal > > profile (not adding anything to profile.ijs other than the link). > > This was a pain because moving from j501b to j502a then j503bbeta, > > j503cbeta, j503ebeta, finally to j503a, then j504 then j601 and so > > forth required that I look at and modify profile.ijs each time... > > > > I was very happy when j602 introduced profilex.ijs and I could stop > > having the tedium of analyzing then hacking the system profile.ijs. > > Now it seems like my happiness only lasted one release.... (unless > > there is an official way to set paths for things like j701-user). > > > > I too am for minimizing complexity, but loosing profilex.ijs seems > > like a step in the wrong direction for that goal... > > > > > > At 12:15 +1200 2010/06/10, Sherlock, Ric wrote: > > > > From: Joey K Tuttle > > >> Sent: Thursday, 10 June 2010 07:15 > > >> > > >> On the negative side, jconsole doesn't work (the way I want it to) > > >> out of the box. My problem has to do with profile.ijs - > > >> > > >> The previous mechanism of profilex.ijs as derived from > > >> profilex_template.ijs seems to have been abandoned. This has two > > >> damaging effects on my normal setup in OSX - one is the ability to > > >> have the Jxxx-user directory located in Documents rather than at my > > >> user root (I like to avoid clutter!) > > >> > > >> The other is bringing in my ancient profile - the profile.ijs seems > > >> to be saying that startup.ijs is the tool, and I guess that was > > >> available before along with profilex.ijs, but I never used it. This > > >> is an issue in both OSX and Linux. > > >> > > >> I don't mind adapting, but hope that things will stabilize so that > > >> updating j doesn't cause the environment to break... By the way, my > > >> old profile.ijs stuff is also missing, of course, in the browser > > >> session and the j701-user directory is plopped into user root.... I > > >> think that the move in j602 to avoid the need for hacking profile.ijs > > >> was a good one - is there a reason for abandoning profilex.ijs ?? > > >> > > >> What is the recommended way to get the previous behaviors in > jconsole? > > > > > >With regards profile.ijs, profilex_template.ijs, profilex.ijs: > > >I think the thinking behind the removal of profilex.ijs goes > > >something like this: > > > > > >Because j701 will use JAL to do much more of its updating than in > > >previous versions, users won't be reinstalling their J installations > > >as much and therefore it is not so important to have a mechanism for > > >retaining system folder configurations between installs. It is > > >therefore possible to removing the complexity of profilex.ijs with > > >little impact. If you want to customize the location of your system > > >folders you would now do so directly in profile.ijs. > > > > > >I've reserved judgement for the time being - I'm all for reduced > > >complexity, but I liked the robustness that profilex.ijs provided. > > > > > >With regards to where to put your other "starting configuration > > >stuff", I think that you are correct that the intention is for you > > >not to put anything in profile(x).ijs that isn't to do with setting > > >paths to system folders. As you surmise "other stuff" should be in > > >~config/startup.ijs. > > > > > >For j602 jconsole loaded the startup file > > >"~config/startup_console.ijs" if it was present, while jwd loaded > > >"~config/startup.ijs". In the current j701 beta I think that all > > >front ends are presently loading ~config/startup.ijs > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
