This is a second year of programming in highschool. All I want is for the kids to be exposed to J so that they'll know that there is an alternative to the scalar languages. It's not very structured, and I try to go to the local university or businesses to get projects for them to code.
I want the j.exe so that I can use all the code I've developed over the years. Henry Rich Sherlock, Ric wrote: >> From: Henry Rich >> Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 04:17 >> >> I have not tried to use the beta because of compatibility fears. >> >> But with the school year about to start, I was thinking maybe the kids >> would want to start with the newest stuff, so I downloaded j701abeta >> off the site to see if I could get j.exe working and to see what >> functions that I use have been decommitted. >> >> I can't take the first step. I can run jconsole, but that seems to be >> a DOS window. The docs say I should use JAL to get j.exe, but I don't >> see how to run JAL from jconsole. >> >> Is there a guide to getting j.exe up in the beta? > > I don't think that I can advise you very well because I'm not really clear > what it is that you want your kids to be able to achieve using J. > > Do you want your kids to use J to investigate problems/data, to build GUI > apps with J, or to build internet apps with J? Is it about the students > exploring an environment and seeing what is possible (student motivated) or > do you have a more structured set of learning objectives for the course? > > The more structured your learning objectives, the more I'd be inclined to > stick with J602 for now. J7 and its various front ends show a lot of promise, > but are still developing/changing relatively quickly. For some > students/courses that might be quite exciting and motivating, but others will > find the lack of documentation and guided examples frustrating. > > AFAIK a j.exe frontend to J7 hasn't been developed yet. I imagine that this > could exist as an addon ide/jwd or similar that would be downloadable from > JAL. The main work (as I see it) would involve respecifying the current J602 > IDE scripts to be an addon and to work with the much smaller J701 base system > library. Given that I imagine a jwd front end isn't an absolute requirement > to develop/maintain jwd-based applications, the question is whether it is > worth the effort. (Others may want to correct or add to my perhaps naive > ideas above!) > > If you just want to use the updated J701 engine, then I suspect that you can > copy the j.dll from the betas to a j602 installation and things should work > OK. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
