I think in your position I'd (reluctantly) stick with J602 for the moment. Unless you have a project that would specifically benefit from some of the functionality now available in the JHS or GTK front ends.
> From: Henry Rich > Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 13:21 > > This is a second year of programming in highschool. All I want is for > the kids to be exposed to J so that they'll know that there is an > alternative to the scalar languages. It's not very structured, and I > try to go to the local university or businesses to get projects for > them > to code. > > I want the j.exe so that I can use all the code I've developed over the > years. > > Henry Rich > > Sherlock, Ric wrote: > >> From: Henry Rich > >> Sent: Monday, 9 August 2010 04:17 > >> > >> I have not tried to use the beta because of compatibility fears. > >> > >> But with the school year about to start, I was thinking maybe the > kids > >> would want to start with the newest stuff, so I downloaded j701abeta > >> off the site to see if I could get j.exe working and to see what > >> functions that I use have been decommitted. > >> > >> I can't take the first step. I can run jconsole, but that seems to > be > >> a DOS window. The docs say I should use JAL to get j.exe, but I > don't > >> see how to run JAL from jconsole. > >> > >> Is there a guide to getting j.exe up in the beta? > > > > I don't think that I can advise you very well because I'm not really > clear what it is that you want your kids to be able to achieve using J. > > > > Do you want your kids to use J to investigate problems/data, to build > GUI apps with J, or to build internet apps with J? Is it about the > students exploring an environment and seeing what is possible (student > motivated) or do you have a more structured set of learning objectives > for the course? > > > > The more structured your learning objectives, the more I'd be > inclined to stick with J602 for now. J7 and its various front ends show > a lot of promise, but are still developing/changing relatively quickly. > For some students/courses that might be quite exciting and motivating, > but others will find the lack of documentation and guided examples > frustrating. > > > > AFAIK a j.exe frontend to J7 hasn't been developed yet. I imagine > that this could exist as an addon ide/jwd or similar that would be > downloadable from JAL. The main work (as I see it) would involve > respecifying the current J602 IDE scripts to be an addon and to work > with the much smaller J701 base system library. Given that I imagine a > jwd front end isn't an absolute requirement to develop/maintain jwd- > based applications, the question is whether it is worth the effort. > (Others may want to correct or add to my perhaps naive ideas above!) > > > > If you just want to use the updated J701 engine, then I suspect that > you can copy the j.dll from the betas to a j602 installation and things > should work OK. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
