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/home/jerome/j701/help 701/primer/title.htm gnome nautilus open with links2 -g and "turbo" help, usefull for me in linux desktops 2-- I never think I'll mail with the author himself, an honnor for a basic user for me, I am french, it's "sine qua non" to localize help of a programm 3-- the first I do is to open a file-browser and to search the help, howto, readme, doc, info ... like what as initialize that topic I copy it at a place easy to find the first level of the program directory is the good place 4-- now the lab arithmetic stops at the third avance in jhs local 5-- the iphone of my son, marcfontaine, as WRITE with distant jijxh & jijxm he was happy to make a plot 2010/12/22 Tikkanz <[email protected]> > Don't have ready access to windows atm, but my memory is that the > default browsing behaviour was tested to handle both those scenarios. > Ric > > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > > Default browser can mean 2 things: one for reading html files, another > for > > connecting sites via http. Can you confirm that it works for both > > start http://www.jsoftware.com > > and > > start /path/to/index.htm > > > > Срд, 22 Дек 2010, Tikkanz писал(а): > >> From memory the use of 'start' on Windows when launching a URL will > >> use the system default browser, so it is not necessary to detect the > >> browser to use - unless you wish to override this. Perhaps the > >> base.cfg setting for BROWSER should be set to '' by default on Windows > >> systems? > >> > >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:58 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > I checked the code again and found that window will use 'start' to > launch a > >> > browser in it browser is not set in base.cfg. However I seldom use > window > >> > and have never tried this. > >> > > >> > Срд, 22 Дек 2010, bill lam писал(а): > >> >> Windows does not have 'which' command to locate executable. Or can > you give > >> >> a list of path names for the common window browsers so that > dfltbrowser can > >> >> also try to detect them under window? > >> >> > >> >> Втр, 21 Дек 2010, Don Guinn писал(а): > >> >> > I apologize for being so terse before. I think it is important that > the > >> >> > basic J installation include full help. That is one of the things > that a new > >> >> > user will probably try very early. And they will probably need to > read help > >> >> > to learn how to run pacman to get everything else. Why not use the > help on > >> >> > JSoftware site until help is installed locally? > >> >> > > >> >> > My confusion on profile.ijs - Since pacman does not update > profile.ijs, then > >> >> > profilex.ijs should no longer be needed. I was a little confused by > the > >> >> > comments in it stating that profile.ijs is not included in the > distribution, > >> >> > yet it is for J7. Is profilex.ijs just a relic from J6 that needs > to be > >> >> > removed? > >> >> > > >> >> > On help. I don't understand why profile.ijs sets help to > install,'/help' > >> >> > instead of addons,'/docs/help' as that is where the help files are > put by > >> >> > pacman. Then if htmlhelp in stdlib.ijs were changed to something > like: > >> >> > > >> >> > htmlhelp=: 3 : 0 > >> >> > if. #dir f=.jpath '~help' > >> >> > do. browse 'file://',f,'/',y > >> >> > else. browse 'http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help701/',y > >> >> > end. > >> >> > ) > >> >> > > >> >> > Until help is installed help requests would go to the JSoftware > site for the > >> >> > help files. This would mean that help would work before the pacman > update > >> >> > installing help files is done. > >> >> > > >> >> > On the browser. I don't have firefox. Yet base.cfg sets firefox as > the > >> >> > browser to use. Shouldn't base.cfg check to see if the firefox file > exists, > >> >> > then, if not, set it to 'c:/program files/Internet > Explorer/iexplore.exe'? > >> >> > Or go to a little trouble to determine what the default browser is. > Along > >> >> > with that, I found the verb dfltbrowser in stdlib.ijs which seems > to do > >> >> > things similar to the code in base.cfg, but not the same. Seems > strange, but > >> >> > I haven't spent much time looking at this yet. > >> >> > > >> >> > I see that things are quite different between jgtk and jfe. So > maybe this is > >> >> > not really a problem as a new user will probably use jfe jal to get > the > >> >> > jgtk. > >> >> > > >> >> > Just now beginning to get some time to really dig into J7. Thanks > for a > >> >> > great and most interesting tool. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Eric Iverson < > [email protected]>wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > Not sure on all your comments. But profile.ijs and profilex.ijs > are both > >> >> > > properly in bin from an installer. They are not updated by a > pacman stdlib > >> >> > > update. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Looked at the j701abeta.exe and saw that it included in bin the > file > >> >> > > > profile.ijs. Not supposed to be there. The profilex.ijs is > minimal and > >> >> > > > should be expanded to look more like the profile.ijs. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > Why assume that firefox is the browser? Why assume that the > help is in > >> >> > > > ~install/help? When help is installed by pacman it puts help in > >> >> > > > ~addons/doc/help. Why not have help default to the jsoftware > web site > >> >> > > until > >> >> > > > local help is installed? Set the browser for help to the > default browser > >> >> > > > instead of firefox? > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > The idea is that things should work when J is installed without > requiring > >> >> > > > the user to fix things. profile.ijs should be removed from the > install > >> >> > > and > >> >> > > > profilex.ijs needs to be a little smarter. > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:00 AM, jerome fontaine < > >> >> > > > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > it works on google-cr > >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > try. > >> >> > > > > if. IFUNIX do. > >> >> > > > > NB. gmail bill lam 2!:1 cmd, ((0=nox)*.(1 e. 'iceweasel' E. > >> >> > > > browser)+.(1 > >> >> > > > > e. 'firefox' E. browser))#' &' > >> >> > > > > 2!:1 cmd, (0=nox)#' &' > >> >> > > > > else. > >> >> > > > > fork_jtask_ cmd > >> >> > > > > end. > >> >> > > > > -------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > for info > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > html-browser galeon open a search when typing in the jijx: > not usable > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > I'have to test, one day > >> >> > > > > firefox, iceweasel, icecat, iceape, seamonkey, midori, > chromiun, > >> >> > > epiphany > >> >> > > > > --------------------------- > >> >> > > > > jer...@sony-usb-lmde ~/Bureau $ uname -a > >> >> > > > > Linux sony-usb-LMDE 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 18:43:34 > UTC 2010 > >> >> > > i686 > >> >> > > > > GNU/Linux > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > it's a 8 Go usb key who runs my linux > >> >> > > > > the internal disk sleeps > >> >> > > > > I can use it on all the computers I have test, six now > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > I can make tries like I need > >> >> > > > > I have 6 bootable systems with j701 on 5 discs > >> >> > > > > I began december the 16 2011 j701 > >> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------ > >> >> > > > > 2010/12/20 bill lam <[email protected]> > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Thank you report this error, I only tested with firefox. > >> >> > > > > > Edit file ~system/main/stdlib.ijs > >> >> > > > > > change the line, (beware line wrapping) > >> >> > > > > > 2!:1 cmd, ((0=nox)*.(1 e. 'iceweasel' E. browser)+.(1 e. > 'firefox' E. > >> >> > > > > > browser))#' &' > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > to > >> >> > > > > > 2!:1 cmd, (0=nox)#' &' > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > save file and restart J gtkide to try again. > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > Пнд, 20 Дек 2010, jerome fontaine писал(а): > >> >> > > > > > > in fact, > >> >> > > > > > > open help, > >> >> > > > > > > but my jgtk froze, > >> >> > > > > > > I have to close google-chrome to retrive the > >> >> > > > > > > J window > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > 2010/12/20 jerome fontaine <[email protected] > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > ok, works, I have a lot to learn > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > file:///home/jerome/j701/addons/docs/help/index.htm > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > open a file browser, > >> >> > > > > > > > go to the directory > >> >> > > > > > > > open the file with an editor, > >> >> > > > > > > > copy, paste the good line, or type it > >> >> > > > > > > > NB. to desactivate the wrong, > >> >> > > > > > > > save the new file > >> >> > > > > > > > stop j > >> >> > > > > > > > rerun j > >> >> > > > > > > > no problem for me, but not for everyone > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > 2010/12/20 bill lam <[email protected]> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> addons/docs/help came from pacman. > >> >> > > > > > > >> no need to copy files. > >> >> > > > > > > >> edit the file ~bin/profile.ijs > >> >> > > > > > > >> change the line > >> >> > > > > > > >> help=. install,'/help' > >> >> > > > > > > >> to > >> >> > > > > > > >> help=. addons,'/docs/help' > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> save file and start J gtkide, help menu or F1 will > point to the > >> >> > > > > > correct > >> >> > > > > > > >> location. > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> Пнд, 20 Дек 2010, jerome fontaine писал(а): > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > > > >> > thank you, help is where you say > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > /home/jerome/j701/addons/docs > >> >> > > > > > > >> > 850 éléments, total 6,8 Mio > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > when does it come here? > >> >> > > > > > > >> > install or pacman or ...? > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > if I rename my help in help602 I have this: > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > Page Web introuvable > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > Aucune page Web trouvée à l'adresse :* > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > file:///home/jerome/j701/help/dictionary/vocabul.htm* > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > I'll copy the good help to the good place, but why > another > >> >> > > way? > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > done, it works whit some j701 title and 2011 date > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > and I need help > >> >> > > > > > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > > > >> > what do you think of my how to > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > I am fIrench and it not easy to understand and to > make j701 > >> >> > > > works > >> >> > > > > > the > >> >> > > > > > > >> first > >> >> > > > > > > >> > time > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > perhaps it is not the good place forit, but I don't > know > >> >> > > another > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > ----------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > 2010/12/20 bill lam <[email protected]> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > Вск, 19 Дек 2010, jerome fontaine писал(а): > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > 220 +++++++++ with nautilus copy > ~/j602/help > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > 230 +++++++++ paste ~/j701 > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > help should already inside ~/addons/docs/help. It > is > >> >> > > > > > un-neccessary to > >> >> > > > > > > >> copy > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > help files from j602 > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > -- > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > regards, > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > ==================================================== > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys > 4434BAB3 > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > For information about J forums see > >> >> > > > > > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > > > >> > For information about J forums see > >> >> > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> -- > >> >> > > > > > > >> regards, > >> >> > > > > > > >> ==================================================== > >> >> > > > > > > >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > >> >> > > > > > > >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > > > >> For information about J forums see > >> >> > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > > > For information about J forums see > >> >> > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > -- > >> >> > > > > > regards, > >> >> > > > > > ==================================================== > >> >> > > > > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > >> >> > > > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > > For information about J forums see > >> >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > > > > > >> >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > > > >> >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> regards, > >> >> ==================================================== > >> >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > >> >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > >> > > >> > -- > >> > regards, > >> > ==================================================== > >> > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > >> > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > For information about J forums see > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > -- > > regards, > > ==================================================== > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
