I can now that without Browser_j_ set on Windows 7 (32-bit), both web
pages and html files will be opened by the browser

   JVERSION
Engine: j701/beta/2010-11-24/22:45
Library: 7.01.026
Platform: Win 32
Installer: j701abeta_win.exe
InstallPath: c:/users/ric/j701
   # Browser_j_
0
   browse_j_ 'http://www.jsoftware.com'
   browse_j_ 'C:\Users\Ric\j701\gtk\share\doc\gettext\ngettext.3.html'

I suggest therefore that the base install for Windows leave Browser_j_
set to '' rather than trying to pick one.

Ric

On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Tikkanz <[email protected]> wrote:
> Don't have ready access to windows atm, but my memory is that the
> default browsing behaviour was tested to handle both those scenarios.
> Ric
>
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Default browser can mean 2 things: one for reading html files, another for
>> connecting sites via http. Can you confirm that it works for both
>> start http://www.jsoftware.com
>> and
>> start /path/to/index.htm
>>
>> Срд, 22 Дек 2010, Tikkanz писал(а):
>>> From memory the use of 'start' on Windows when launching a URL will
>>> use the system default browser, so it is not necessary to detect the
>>> browser to use - unless you wish to override this. Perhaps the
>>> base.cfg setting for BROWSER should be set to '' by default on Windows
>>> systems?
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:58 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > I checked the code again and found that window will use 'start' to launch 
>>> > a
>>> > browser in it browser is not set in base.cfg.  However I seldom use window
>>> > and have never tried this.
>>> >
>>> > Срд, 22 Дек 2010, bill lam писал(а):
>>> >> Windows does not have 'which' command to locate executable. Or can you 
>>> >> give
>>> >> a list of path names for the common window browsers so that dfltbrowser 
>>> >> can
>>> >> also try to detect them under window?
>>> >>
>>> >> Втр, 21 Дек 2010, Don Guinn писал(а):
>>> >> > I apologize for being so terse before. I think it is important that the
>>> >> > basic J installation include full help. That is one of the things that 
>>> >> > a new
>>> >> > user will probably try very early. And they will probably need to read 
>>> >> > help
>>> >> > to learn how to run pacman to get everything else. Why not use the 
>>> >> > help on
>>> >> > JSoftware site until help is installed locally?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > My confusion on profile.ijs - Since pacman does not update 
>>> >> > profile.ijs, then
>>> >> > profilex.ijs should no longer be needed. I was a little confused by the
>>> >> > comments in it stating that profile.ijs is not included in the 
>>> >> > distribution,
>>> >> > yet it is for J7. Is profilex.ijs just a relic from J6 that needs to be
>>> >> > removed?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On help. I don't understand why profile.ijs sets help to 
>>> >> > install,'/help'
>>> >> > instead of addons,'/docs/help' as that is where the help files are put 
>>> >> > by
>>> >> > pacman. Then if htmlhelp in stdlib.ijs were changed to something like:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > htmlhelp=: 3 : 0
>>> >> > if. #dir f=.jpath '~help'
>>> >> >   do.   browse 'file://',f,'/',y
>>> >> >   else. browse 'http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help701/',y
>>> >> > end.
>>> >> > )
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Until help is installed help requests would go to the JSoftware site 
>>> >> > for the
>>> >> > help files. This would mean that help would work before the pacman 
>>> >> > update
>>> >> > installing help files is done.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On the browser. I don't have firefox. Yet base.cfg sets firefox as the
>>> >> > browser to use. Shouldn't base.cfg check to see if the firefox file 
>>> >> > exists,
>>> >> > then, if not, set it to 'c:/program files/Internet 
>>> >> > Explorer/iexplore.exe'?
>>> >> > Or go to a little trouble to determine what the default browser is. 
>>> >> > Along
>>> >> > with that, I found the verb dfltbrowser in stdlib.ijs which seems to do
>>> >> > things similar to the code in base.cfg, but not the same. Seems 
>>> >> > strange, but
>>> >> > I haven't spent much time looking at this yet.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I see that things are quite different between jgtk and jfe. So maybe 
>>> >> > this is
>>> >> > not really a problem as a new user will probably use jfe jal to get the
>>> >> > jgtk.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Just now beginning to get some time to really dig into J7. Thanks for a
>>> >> > great and most interesting tool.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Eric Iverson 
>>> >> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > > Not sure on all your comments. But profile.ijs and profilex.ijs are 
>>> >> > > both
>>> >> > > properly in bin from an installer. They are not updated by a pacman 
>>> >> > > stdlib
>>> >> > > update.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> 
>>> >> > > wrote:
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > > > Looked at the j701abeta.exe and saw that it included in bin the 
>>> >> > > > file
>>> >> > > > profile.ijs. Not supposed to be there. The profilex.ijs is minimal 
>>> >> > > > and
>>> >> > > > should be expanded to look more like the profile.ijs.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > Why assume that firefox is the browser? Why assume that the help 
>>> >> > > > is in
>>> >> > > > ~install/help? When help is installed by pacman it puts help in
>>> >> > > > ~addons/doc/help. Why not have help default to the jsoftware web 
>>> >> > > > site
>>> >> > > until
>>> >> > > > local help is installed? Set the browser for help to the default 
>>> >> > > > browser
>>> >> > > > instead of firefox?
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > The idea is that things should work when J is installed without 
>>> >> > > > requiring
>>> >> > > > the user to fix things. profile.ijs should be removed from the 
>>> >> > > > install
>>> >> > > and
>>> >> > > > profilex.ijs needs to be a little smarter.
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:00 AM, jerome fontaine <
>>> >> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > > > it works on google-cr
>>> >> > > > > -------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > try.
>>> >> > > > >  if. IFUNIX do.
>>> >> > > > > NB. gmail  bill lam  2!:1 cmd, ((0=nox)*.(1 e. 'iceweasel' E.
>>> >> > > > browser)+.(1
>>> >> > > > > e. 'firefox' E. browser))#' &'
>>> >> > > > > 2!:1 cmd, (0=nox)#' &'
>>> >> > > > >  else.
>>> >> > > > >    fork_jtask_ cmd
>>> >> > > > >  end.
>>> >> > > > > --------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > for info
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > html-browser galeon open a search when typing in the jijx: not 
>>> >> > > > > usable
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > I'have to test, one day
>>> >> > > > > firefox, iceweasel, icecat, iceape, seamonkey, midori, chromiun,
>>> >> > > epiphany
>>> >> > > > > ---------------------------
>>> >> > > > > jer...@sony-usb-lmde ~/Bureau $ uname -a
>>> >> > > > > Linux sony-usb-LMDE 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 18:43:34 UTC 
>>> >> > > > > 2010
>>> >> > > i686
>>> >> > > > > GNU/Linux
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > it's a 8 Go usb key who runs my linux
>>> >> > > > > the internal disk sleeps
>>> >> > > > > I can use it on all the computers I have test, six now
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > I can make tries like I need
>>> >> > > > >  I have 6 bootable systems with j701 on 5 discs
>>> >> > > > > I began december the 16 2011 j701
>>> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > 2010/12/20 bill lam <[email protected]>
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > Thank you report this error, I only tested with firefox.
>>> >> > > > > > Edit file ~system/main/stdlib.ijs
>>> >> > > > > > change the line, (beware line wrapping)
>>> >> > > > > > 2!:1 cmd, ((0=nox)*.(1 e. 'iceweasel' E. browser)+.(1 e. 
>>> >> > > > > > 'firefox' E.
>>> >> > > > > > browser))#' &'
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > to
>>> >> > > > > > 2!:1 cmd, (0=nox)#' &'
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > save file and restart J gtkide to try again.
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > Пнд, 20 Дек 2010, jerome fontaine писал(а):
>>> >> > > > > > > in fact,
>>> >> > > > > > >  open help,
>>> >> > > > > > >  but my jgtk froze,
>>> >> > > > > > >  I have to close google-chrome to retrive the
>>> >> > > > > > > J window
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > 2010/12/20 jerome fontaine <[email protected]>
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > > ok, works, I have a lot to learn
>>> >> > > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > > file:///home/jerome/j701/addons/docs/help/index.htm
>>> >> > > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > > open a file browser,
>>> >> > > > > > > > go to the directory
>>> >> > > > > > > > open the file with an editor,
>>> >> > > > > > > > copy, paste the good line, or type it
>>> >> > > > > > > > NB. to desactivate the wrong,
>>> >> > > > > > > > save the new file
>>> >> > > > > > > > stop j
>>> >> > > > > > > > rerun j
>>> >> > > > > > > >        no problem for me, but not for everyone
>>> >> > > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > > 2010/12/20 bill lam <[email protected]>
>>> >> > > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> addons/docs/help came from pacman.
>>> >> > > > > > > >> no need to copy files.
>>> >> > > > > > > >> edit the file ~bin/profile.ijs
>>> >> > > > > > > >> change the line
>>> >> > > > > > > >>  help=.    install,'/help'
>>> >> > > > > > > >> to
>>> >> > > > > > > >>  help=.    addons,'/docs/help'
>>> >> > > > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > > > >> save file and start J gtkide, help menu or F1 will point 
>>> >> > > > > > > >> to the
>>> >> > > > > > correct
>>> >> > > > > > > >> location.
>>> >> > > > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > > > >> Пнд, 20 Дек 2010, jerome fontaine писал(а):
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > thank you, help is where you say
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > /home/jerome/j701/addons/docs
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > 850 éléments, total 6,8 Mio
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > when does it come here?
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > install or pacman or ...?
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > if I rename my help in help602 I have this:
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > Page Web introuvable
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > Aucune page Web trouvée à l'adresse :*
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > file:///home/jerome/j701/help/dictionary/vocabul.htm*
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > I'll copy the good help to the good place,  but why 
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > another
>>> >> > > way?
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > done, it works whit some j701 title and 2011 date
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > and I need help
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > ----------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > what do you think of my how to
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > I am fIrench and it not easy to understand and to make 
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > j701
>>> >> > > > works
>>> >> > > > > > the
>>> >> > > > > > > >> first
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > time
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > perhaps it is not the good place forit, but I don't know
>>> >> > > another
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > -----------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > 2010/12/20 bill lam <[email protected]>
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > Вск, 19 Дек 2010, jerome fontaine писал(а):
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > > 220 +++++++++    with nautilus    copy ~/j602/help
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > > 230 +++++++++                     paste ~/j701
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > help should already inside ~/addons/docs/help.  It is
>>> >> > > > > > un-neccessary to
>>> >> > > > > > > >> copy
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > help files from j602
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > --
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > regards,
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > ====================================================
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > > For information about J forums see
>>> >> > > > > > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> >> > > > > > > >> >
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > > > >> > For information about J forums see
>>> >> > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> >> > > > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > > > >> --
>>> >> > > > > > > >> regards,
>>> >> > > > > > > >> ====================================================
>>> >> > > > > > > >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
>>> >> > > > > > > >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
>>> >> > > > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > > > >> For information about J forums see
>>> >> > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> >> > > > > > > >>
>>> >> > > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > >
>>> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > > > For information about J forums see
>>> >> > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > > --
>>> >> > > > > > regards,
>>> >> > > > > > ====================================================
>>> >> > > > > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
>>> >> > > > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > > For information about J forums see
>>> >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> >> > > > > >
>>> >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > > For information about J forums see 
>>> >> > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> >> > > > >
>>> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > > For information about J forums see 
>>> >> > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> >> > > >
>>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > > For information about J forums see 
>>> >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> regards,
>>> >> ====================================================
>>> >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
>>> >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > regards,
>>> > ====================================================
>>> > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
>>> > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
>>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>> ====================================================
>> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
>> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
>
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