Thank for confirmation, Ric.

svn updated.

Чтв, 23 Дек 2010, Tikkanz писал(а):
> I can now that without Browser_j_ set on Windows 7 (32-bit), both web
> pages and html files will be opened by the browser
> 
>    JVERSION
> Engine: j701/beta/2010-11-24/22:45
> Library: 7.01.026
> Platform: Win 32
> Installer: j701abeta_win.exe
> InstallPath: c:/users/ric/j701
>    # Browser_j_
> 0
>    browse_j_ 'http://www.jsoftware.com'
>    browse_j_ 'C:\Users\Ric\j701\gtk\share\doc\gettext\ngettext.3.html'
> 
> I suggest therefore that the base install for Windows leave Browser_j_
> set to '' rather than trying to pick one.
> 
> Ric
> 
> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Tikkanz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Don't have ready access to windows atm, but my memory is that the
> > default browsing behaviour was tested to handle both those scenarios.
> > Ric
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 3:16 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Default browser can mean 2 things: one for reading html files, another for
> >> connecting sites via http. Can you confirm that it works for both
> >> start http://www.jsoftware.com
> >> and
> >> start /path/to/index.htm
> >>
> >> Срд, 22 Дек 2010, Tikkanz писал(а):
> >>> From memory the use of 'start' on Windows when launching a URL will
> >>> use the system default browser, so it is not necessary to detect the
> >>> browser to use - unless you wish to override this. Perhaps the
> >>> base.cfg setting for BROWSER should be set to '' by default on Windows
> >>> systems?
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 2:58 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> > I checked the code again and found that window will use 'start' to 
> >>> > launch a
> >>> > browser in it browser is not set in base.cfg.  However I seldom use 
> >>> > window
> >>> > and have never tried this.
> >>> >
> >>> > Срд, 22 Дек 2010, bill lam писал(а):
> >>> >> Windows does not have 'which' command to locate executable. Or can you 
> >>> >> give
> >>> >> a list of path names for the common window browsers so that 
> >>> >> dfltbrowser can
> >>> >> also try to detect them under window?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Втр, 21 Дек 2010, Don Guinn писал(а):
> >>> >> > I apologize for being so terse before. I think it is important that 
> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> > basic J installation include full help. That is one of the things 
> >>> >> > that a new
> >>> >> > user will probably try very early. And they will probably need to 
> >>> >> > read help
> >>> >> > to learn how to run pacman to get everything else. Why not use the 
> >>> >> > help on
> >>> >> > JSoftware site until help is installed locally?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > My confusion on profile.ijs - Since pacman does not update 
> >>> >> > profile.ijs, then
> >>> >> > profilex.ijs should no longer be needed. I was a little confused by 
> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> > comments in it stating that profile.ijs is not included in the 
> >>> >> > distribution,
> >>> >> > yet it is for J7. Is profilex.ijs just a relic from J6 that needs to 
> >>> >> > be
> >>> >> > removed?
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On help. I don't understand why profile.ijs sets help to 
> >>> >> > install,'/help'
> >>> >> > instead of addons,'/docs/help' as that is where the help files are 
> >>> >> > put by
> >>> >> > pacman. Then if htmlhelp in stdlib.ijs were changed to something 
> >>> >> > like:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > htmlhelp=: 3 : 0
> >>> >> > if. #dir f=.jpath '~help'
> >>> >> >   do.   browse 'file://',f,'/',y
> >>> >> >   else. browse 'http://www.jsoftware.com/docs/help701/',y
> >>> >> > end.
> >>> >> > )
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Until help is installed help requests would go to the JSoftware site 
> >>> >> > for the
> >>> >> > help files. This would mean that help would work before the pacman 
> >>> >> > update
> >>> >> > installing help files is done.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On the browser. I don't have firefox. Yet base.cfg sets firefox as 
> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> > browser to use. Shouldn't base.cfg check to see if the firefox file 
> >>> >> > exists,
> >>> >> > then, if not, set it to 'c:/program files/Internet 
> >>> >> > Explorer/iexplore.exe'?
> >>> >> > Or go to a little trouble to determine what the default browser is. 
> >>> >> > Along
> >>> >> > with that, I found the verb dfltbrowser in stdlib.ijs which seems to 
> >>> >> > do
> >>> >> > things similar to the code in base.cfg, but not the same. Seems 
> >>> >> > strange, but
> >>> >> > I haven't spent much time looking at this yet.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > I see that things are quite different between jgtk and jfe. So maybe 
> >>> >> > this is
> >>> >> > not really a problem as a new user will probably use jfe jal to get 
> >>> >> > the
> >>> >> > jgtk.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > Just now beginning to get some time to really dig into J7. Thanks 
> >>> >> > for a
> >>> >> > great and most interesting tool.
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 9:15 AM, Eric Iverson 
> >>> >> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> >>> >> >
> >>> >> > > Not sure on all your comments. But profile.ijs and profilex.ijs 
> >>> >> > > are both
> >>> >> > > properly in bin from an installer. They are not updated by a 
> >>> >> > > pacman stdlib
> >>> >> > > update.
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> 
> >>> >> > > wrote:
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > > > Looked at the j701abeta.exe and saw that it included in bin the 
> >>> >> > > > file
> >>> >> > > > profile.ijs. Not supposed to be there. The profilex.ijs is 
> >>> >> > > > minimal and
> >>> >> > > > should be expanded to look more like the profile.ijs.
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > Why assume that firefox is the browser? Why assume that the help 
> >>> >> > > > is in
> >>> >> > > > ~install/help? When help is installed by pacman it puts help in
> >>> >> > > > ~addons/doc/help. Why not have help default to the jsoftware web 
> >>> >> > > > site
> >>> >> > > until
> >>> >> > > > local help is installed? Set the browser for help to the default 
> >>> >> > > > browser
> >>> >> > > > instead of firefox?
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > The idea is that things should work when J is installed without 
> >>> >> > > > requiring
> >>> >> > > > the user to fix things. profile.ijs should be removed from the 
> >>> >> > > > install
> >>> >> > > and
> >>> >> > > > profilex.ijs needs to be a little smarter.
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 1:00 AM, jerome fontaine <
> >>> >> > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > > > it works on google-cr
> >>> >> > > > > -------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > try.
> >>> >> > > > >  if. IFUNIX do.
> >>> >> > > > > NB. gmail  bill lam  2!:1 cmd, ((0=nox)*.(1 e. 'iceweasel' E.
> >>> >> > > > browser)+.(1
> >>> >> > > > > e. 'firefox' E. browser))#' &'
> >>> >> > > > > 2!:1 cmd, (0=nox)#' &'
> >>> >> > > > >  else.
> >>> >> > > > >    fork_jtask_ cmd
> >>> >> > > > >  end.
> >>> >> > > > > --------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > for info
> >>> >> > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > html-browser galeon open a search when typing in the jijx: not 
> >>> >> > > > > usable
> >>> >> > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > I'have to test, one day
> >>> >> > > > > firefox, iceweasel, icecat, iceape, seamonkey, midori, 
> >>> >> > > > > chromiun,
> >>> >> > > epiphany
> >>> >> > > > > ---------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > jer...@sony-usb-lmde ~/Bureau $ uname -a
> >>> >> > > > > Linux sony-usb-LMDE 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Thu Nov 25 18:43:34 
> >>> >> > > > > UTC 2010
> >>> >> > > i686
> >>> >> > > > > GNU/Linux
> >>> >> > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > it's a 8 Go usb key who runs my linux
> >>> >> > > > > the internal disk sleeps
> >>> >> > > > > I can use it on all the computers I have test, six now
> >>> >> > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > I can make tries like I need
> >>> >> > > > >  I have 6 bootable systems with j701 on 5 discs
> >>> >> > > > > I began december the 16 2011 j701
> >>> >> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > 2010/12/20 bill lam <[email protected]>
> >>> >> > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > Thank you report this error, I only tested with firefox.
> >>> >> > > > > > Edit file ~system/main/stdlib.ijs
> >>> >> > > > > > change the line, (beware line wrapping)
> >>> >> > > > > > 2!:1 cmd, ((0=nox)*.(1 e. 'iceweasel' E. browser)+.(1 e. 
> >>> >> > > > > > 'firefox' E.
> >>> >> > > > > > browser))#' &'
> >>> >> > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > to
> >>> >> > > > > > 2!:1 cmd, (0=nox)#' &'
> >>> >> > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > save file and restart J gtkide to try again.
> >>> >> > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > Пнд, 20 Дек 2010, jerome fontaine писал(а):
> >>> >> > > > > > > in fact,
> >>> >> > > > > > >  open help,
> >>> >> > > > > > >  but my jgtk froze,
> >>> >> > > > > > >  I have to close google-chrome to retrive the
> >>> >> > > > > > > J window
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > 2010/12/20 jerome fontaine <[email protected]>
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > > ok, works, I have a lot to learn
> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > > file:///home/jerome/j701/addons/docs/help/index.htm
> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > > open a file browser,
> >>> >> > > > > > > > go to the directory
> >>> >> > > > > > > > open the file with an editor,
> >>> >> > > > > > > > copy, paste the good line, or type it
> >>> >> > > > > > > > NB. to desactivate the wrong,
> >>> >> > > > > > > > save the new file
> >>> >> > > > > > > > stop j
> >>> >> > > > > > > > rerun j
> >>> >> > > > > > > >        no problem for me, but not for everyone
> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > > 2010/12/20 bill lam <[email protected]>
> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> addons/docs/help came from pacman.
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> no need to copy files.
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> edit the file ~bin/profile.ijs
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> change the line
> >>> >> > > > > > > >>  help=.    install,'/help'
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> to
> >>> >> > > > > > > >>  help=.    addons,'/docs/help'
> >>> >> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> save file and start J gtkide, help menu or F1 will 
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> point to the
> >>> >> > > > > > correct
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> location.
> >>> >> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> Пнд, 20 Дек 2010, jerome fontaine писал(а):
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > ----------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > thank you, help is where you say
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > /home/jerome/j701/addons/docs
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > 850 éléments, total 6,8 Mio
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > when does it come here?
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > install or pacman or ...?
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > if I rename my help in help602 I have this:
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > Page Web introuvable
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > Aucune page Web trouvée à l'adresse :*
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > file:///home/jerome/j701/help/dictionary/vocabul.htm*
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > I'll copy the good help to the good place,  but why 
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > another
> >>> >> > > way?
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > done, it works whit some j701 title and 2011 date
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > and I need help
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > ----------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > what do you think of my how to
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > I am fIrench and it not easy to understand and to 
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > make j701
> >>> >> > > > works
> >>> >> > > > > > the
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> first
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > time
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > perhaps it is not the good place forit, but I don't 
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > know
> >>> >> > > another
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > -----------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > 2010/12/20 bill lam <[email protected]>
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > Вск, 19 Дек 2010, jerome fontaine писал(а):
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > > 220 +++++++++    with nautilus    copy ~/j602/help
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > > 230 +++++++++                     paste ~/j701
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > help should already inside ~/addons/docs/help.  It 
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > is
> >>> >> > > > > > un-neccessary to
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> copy
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > help files from j602
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > --
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > regards,
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > ====================================================
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > >
> >>> >> > > > > >
> >>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > > For information about J forums see
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> >
> >>> >> > > > > >
> >>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> > For information about J forums see
> >>> >> > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> >> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> --
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> regards,
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> ====================================================
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> >>> >> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > > > >> For information about J forums see
> >>> >> > > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> >> > > > > > > >>
> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > > > For information about J forums see
> >>> >> > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> >> > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > > --
> >>> >> > > > > > regards,
> >>> >> > > > > > ====================================================
> >>> >> > > > > > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> >>> >> > > > > > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> >>> >> > > > > >
> >>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > > For information about J forums see
> >>> >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> >> > > > > >
> >>> >> > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > > For information about J forums see 
> >>> >> > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> >> > > > >
> >>> >> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > > For information about J forums see 
> >>> >> > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> >> > > >
> >>> >> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > > For information about J forums see 
> >>> >> > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> >> > >
> >>> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> >> > For information about J forums see 
> >>> >> > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> >>
> >>> >> --
> >>> >> regards,
> >>> >> ====================================================
> >>> >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> >>> >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> >>> >
> >>> > --
> >>> > regards,
> >>> > ====================================================
> >>> > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> >>> > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> >>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >>
> >> --
> >> regards,
> >> ====================================================
> >> GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24
> >> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm

-- 
regards,
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