Required changed have already commited to J602 base library to allow it reuse j engine (j.dll) of J701, and share a common code base in jal of wd non-related addons.
IOW you can work with j602 with the latest j engine and jal addons updates. Срд, 22 Дек 2010, Björn Helgason писал(а): > I am reading what you are writing and I do understand that J.exe will not be > developed further. > > I am basically talking about how the conversion and marketing of it in the > future be handled. > > I think there will be a lot of documents produced in the future how to move > applications from J.exe to JHS and/or GTK. > > How it is done is probably more a matter of taste. > > Your current approach has its merits and may well be the best/right way to > go. > > I have envisioned it a bit differently and have pictured all three ides > living under the same name for a foreseeable future. > > Maybe it is better to just leave it as it is and for me personally it is a > non-issue. > > I am more thinking about how to handle all the transitional documentation > and tools needed for people who want to move their applications. > > If there are no problems for general users of having J.exe only as J6 I > agree with your approach. > > We are more or less disagreeing on the naming issue anyway. > > 2010/12/22 Eric Iverson <[email protected]> > > > You are not reading what I am writing. > > > > J602 will live for a lot longer. It is a great system and is very stable > > and > > complete. However, it is at the end of its life cycle and no official > > Jsoftware energies will go into further development. > > > > Going forward, as appropriate, a user can use J602 or J701 or both. But > > they > > are different releases with different strengths, weakness, characteristics, > > and futures. > > > > 2010/12/22 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > > > > > I think it is a mistake to drop J.exe like this. > > > > > > I think it would be better to let it continue without further development > > > until other ides can replace it. > > > > > > Letting each user try to mix things together will only bring on > > confusion. > > > > > > J.exe is a superb product and the other new ides jhs and gtk need a long > > > time and lot of adjustments in documentation for new as well as existing > > > users to make the change. > > > > > > If I may make a suggestion then I would say that J.exe will be better off > > > to > > > be fased out during several months/years in unchanged functionality and > > as > > > conversion tools/docs becomes available. > > > > > > JHS and GTK may well be good enough technically for experts but for > > > ordinary > > > users I am sure it is definitely a bit too much of a leap. > > > > > > In theory you could more or less bring J.exe unchanged from the J6 > > > distribution into J7. > > > > > > 2010/12/22 Eric Iverson <[email protected]> > > > > > > > It is a mistake to think 'J.exe is part of J7'. It is not. > > > > > > > > You can, if you choose to take deliberate manual steps, use the J7 JE > > > > (j.dll) in your J602 installation. > > > > > > > > 2010/12/22 Björn Helgason <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > Do not forget that J.exe is also part of J7 and all new ides share > > the > > > > same > > > > > engine. > > > > > > > > > > 2010/12/22 Kip Murray <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > As Jsoftware nears the end of the beta process, please make time to > > > > > supply > > > > > > in > > > > > > one place a brief and basic description of how to get started and > > how > > > > to > > > > > > use > > > > > > jconsole, jhs, and gtkide. Include references to verb jpkg and > > > Chris's > > > > > > advice > > > > > > to 'install' jpkg 'all'. > > > > > > > > > > > > For jhs Eric had to tell me how to create side by side jijx and > > jfile > > > > > > browser > > > > > > windows -- please include information like that, even the use of > > > > Alt+Tab > > > > > to > > > > > > switch between the windows. Some of us are slow to realize "Oh, > > > that's > > > > > how > > > > > > you > > > > > > do J with a browser!" > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > For information about J forums see > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Björn Helgason, Verkfræðingur > > > > > Fornustekkum II > > > > > 781 Hornafirði, > > > > > t-póst: [email protected] > > > > > gsm: +3546985532 > > > > > sími: +3544781286 > > > > > http://groups.google.com/group/J-Programming > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tæknikunnátta höndlar hið flókna, sköpunargáfa er meistari > > > einfaldleikans > > > > > > > > > > góður kennari getur stigið á tær án þess að glansinn fari af skónum > > > > > /|_ .-----------------------------------. > > > > > ,' .\ / | Með léttri lund verður | > > > > > ,--' _,' | Dagurinn í dag | > > > > > / / | Enn betri en gærdagurinn | > > > > > ( -. | `-----------------------------------' > > > > > | ) | (\_ _/) > > > > > (`-. 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