Agreed. In addition I think that to attract (and especially retain) new users to the community, the environment needs to be as clean and simple as possible. You can only say "Don't worry about that, you'll get used to it after a while" so many times before the listener decides they've had enough.
I've seen the jshowconsole verb in JHS and I suspect that something similar in Gtk would be desirable and should probably be set to 0 by default (i.e. you can show it if you want to see it). On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:40 AM, Don Guinn <[email protected]> wrote: > Good for those who use J, but would be distracting and confusing to people > who only use applications written in J. > > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:30 AM, Eric Iverson <[email protected]>wrote: > >> In windows it is possible to programatically hide/show the window. I think >> this will allow users to customize as they see fit once we get some more >> use >> scenarios based on real experience. Initially I hated having the JHS window >> lying around but have gotten used to it and even like it. >> >> On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 7:53 PM, bill lam <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > jconsole is itself a console program so that I think you need to use >> > another loader in order to suppress it from task bar. You may try copy >> > j.exe from j602 to bin folder, and start using a shortcut to run >> > /path/to/j.exe gtkide >> > >> > It should run gtkide but not sure if there will be any other issues. >> > >> > Пнд, 10 Янв 2011, Ric Tikkanz писал(а): >> > > Gtk IDE - The title bar of the Term window doesn't really have >> > > anything to suggest that it is J-related. As a result I find myself >> > > taking a while to find it amoung the many other windows I have open. >> > > I'd prefer it to use the green J icon rather than the current monitor. >> > > Renaming the window "J Term" or "J Terminal" (or "J session" or >> > > "jijx") would help too. >> > > >> > > On Windows will it be possible to start the Gtk IDE without the parent >> > > Jconsole window appearing? >> > > >> > > JHS - The icon used to start the JHS server is red, yet the favicon >> > > used for the tabs in the browser are blue. It would make sense to me >> > > for the colours to match. >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> > -- >> > regards, >> > ==================================================== >> > GPG key 1024D/4434BAB3 2008-08-24 >> > gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4434BAB3 >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
