On Jan 12, 2011, at 7:58 AM, chris burke wrote: > On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:47 AM, Charles Turner <[email protected]> > wrote: >> ... >> If you mean the latter, even though the jgtk implementation is nice, >> certainly better than the Java console, it doesn't come anywhere close to >> the look and feel of a Cocoa UI. > > Yes, unfortunately gtk does not look like a native mac application.
In retrospect, my comment above sounds a bit harsh. Having built, circa 2006-7, a few GTK applications on OSX using Fink and also source builds, the current install process for the Jconsole is a huge improvement. And with working native quartz support in GTK, it seems the "feel" part of look and feel has been addressed: most UI controls behave the way Cocoa/Carbon controls work. The new GTK console is an order of magnitude better than the dorky, bizzaro-world of the Java console for Macintosh. I do realize that it's possible to roll one's own implementation, and I eagerly await the 64-bit libj.dylib. A project like that goes beyond look and feel, giving J access to the Objective-C runtime, and opening up a whole new level of access to OSX features. With a friend in Canada and one in the Netherlands, we have been working on this type of project for iForth, and deal with Cocoa's object orientation procedurally. So, hopefully my dissertation will be finished this year and I can devote some serious time to this while learning J. ;-) Best wishes, Charles ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
