Fulltext search is optional. Just disable the plugin if you don't like it.
Am 28.01.2015 um 02:51 schrieb Phil Meyer <s...@hergest.demon.co.uk>: >> It's been mentioned in the forums > I don't remember many conversations about search in all the time I've > participated on the mailing list/forum. > >> it's probably the #1 argument of people telling me what a crappy, >> outdated system the Squeezebox system is. > Really? Ridiculous! > In the example given for searching "hurry love supremes" such that Phil > Collins doesn't come up, what's the harm of searching for "hurry love" and > selecting one of the two hits returned. It's quicker than also typing > "supremes", especially on IR remote or touch keyboard! > > Or search for "Power of love" and get three hits (Frankie Goes To Hollywood, > Jennifer Rush, Huey Lewis and the News). Not too taxing to select one of the > three. > But now it returns Sea Of Love by Cat Power, and curiously "4. Holier Than > Thou (No Rest For The Best) - No Album - Frankie Goes To Hollywood" (why? > "power of love" is not in any of the metadata - I think because it appears in > the file path?). So even "power of love frankie" which is more typing, > doesn't reduce the result set to one hit. > >> But people out there outside >> this forum use things like Spotify, Google Music, Amazon, SoundCloud, >> YouTube etc. and they are used to quite different standards than a >> search logic devised a decade ago. > Well SoundCloud doesn't have albums, etc. Just a flat list of songs for a > user account, so it's hardly a similar situation. > I get that the modern generation don't play albums, they play songs and build > playlists of songs. I probably come from a slightly older generation that > prefers albums, as many of my albums flow as one continuous piece. Less of > the 3 min pop song here, much of my music is progressive rock or > electronic/ambient stuff. I guess the type of music and style it is listened > to reflects on the types of searches that are required for a user. One type > of search doesn't fit all. > >>> It would seem better to me to do it similar to other websites and >>> applications. By default "Search All", but provide a Search Artists, >>> Albums, or Songs that only searches the respective titles. >> That's the "Advanced Search", isn't it? > No. That's only available in web UI, and additional clicks. Advanced search > is useful, and previously I would use this to run more specific queries. But > I always know if I am looking for an album (most frequently) or an artist or > song title. > >> Sure, that can get as complex, detailed, and specific as it wants to be, >> that's what it's for. >> Also, filters should be applied. > I don't need to find across all types of entities and then filter the larger > list down, I already know what I'm looking for. > > This *is* a topic that has come up many times before in the forum about > browsing, where people complain about browse hierarchies, sorting, filtering, > etc, and many people say they don't bother, as they either play random music > or search for the thing they are looking for rather than page through/scroll > a large list. > >> That's probably how the search _should_ look like: you enter one term >> and immediately get fulltext results and if that's not what you are >> looking for you can apply filters to limit it to certain categories. > That's rather fiddly on different interfaces. eg. SB2 with IR remote. > >> That's what iTunes does, for example. > Well, it can be used that way. Search, get a load of stuff back, and then > select items to filter results until you find what you want. But it also > doesn't prioritise matches, it sticks to the chosen sort order. Perhaps > useful if you don't know what you are looking for or just trying to select > something semi-randomly to play, and I do see merit in it sometimes. > > But in iTunes, I still search for a specific artist, album or song title, > less results returned, and I find what I specifically want quicker. > > In iTunes, i want to find In Rainbows by Radiohead: > If I search all for "Rainbow", I get 192 songs, ordered and grouped by Album > by Artist/Year. Scroll half way down results to find Radiohead/In Rainbows, > or in column browser, scroll down list of artists to find Radiohead to filter > results down further. > If I search albums for "Rainbow", I get 7 albums, and In Rainbows is 3rd in > the list. Much quicker. > > > I see that I can disable full text search plugin to restore original > behaviour. It's a bit radical, because although I prefer the old behaviour > by default as this is better for my daily needs, the full text search is good > and of benefit some of the time. > > I go back to what I thought earlier; leave Search Aritsts, Albums, Songs as > they used to work, but add a "Search All" as the default search that performs > the full text search. It's more consistent with all other sites and apps > that provide this feature. > _______________________________________________ > beta mailing list > beta@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta _______________________________________________ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta
