On 24 Mar 2008, at 7:16 PM, James Howison wrote: > > On Mar 24, 2008, at 1:44 PM, Adam M. Goldstein wrote: >> >> On Mar 24, 2008, at 1:29 PM, Daniele Pontillo wrote: >>> Hmm, >>> and what about all the scientific publishers? >>> In my case, there are thousands of medical journals that could >>> benefit >>> from this issue. >>> Dan >>> >> >> I think this is what Christiaan means by "suppliers of PDFs," that >> is, >> the publishers on on-line articles and the like. >> >> If publishers in medicine aren't doing this, it's going to be a long, >> long time before anyone else does. Many of the important innovations >> in on-line databases of articles and other publications come from the >> medical world, because that's where the money is; they have better >> funding than other sciences, and certainly, than humanities. > > After I babbled about this for ages, without actually taking action > [1], I got a few calls from publishers interested in doing it, > including Nature. The stumbling blocks at the time were: > > a) Code to insert the XMP elements into the PDF (although I think they > could have licensed Adobe's stuff easily enough)
That's right, it requires you to have Acrobat Pro. IMHO, that requirement just kills XMP from ever to become useful. > > b) A universal format for citation metadata to actually insert into > the file. AFAIK this still doesn't exist, they all have their > limitations. The feeling was that BibTeX was too limited field-wise, > Endnote was proprietary and hard for others to use. MODS was > considered to be coming close, but I haven't tracked things since > then. > That was my point. Without an agreed upon standard there is no way to pass info in a reliable way, and nobody will do it. > I think that publishers would be happy to insert machine-readable > metadata into their PDFs, if it was relatively easy to do and it was > reliable for a range of tools to extract. > And that indeed cannot be done. Thanks to Adobe. Christiaan > --J > > [1]: http://freelancepropaganda.com/themp/ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft > Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ > _______________________________________________ > Bibdesk-users mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ Bibdesk-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bibdesk-users
