Thank you very much
Obviously this is totally useless for me.
It's a matter of communication
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Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 20:52, Christiaan Hofman <[email protected]>
ha scritto:
>
> On Apr 4, 2013, at 19:53, Daniele Pontillo wrote:
>
>>
>> Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 19:12, Christiaan Hofman
>> <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 13:40, Daniele Pontillo wrote:
>>>
>>>> You almost got it right, almost
>>>> I don't like my HTML file, but I don't know how to edit the file itself.
>>>> Which field should I use to paste my Dropbox-generated link? And what is
>>>> the syntax to edit the HTML file in order to get an appropriate output?
>>>
>>> You are still confusing different things. the problem is that what you say
>>> you want to get, or what you have, is not consistent with the concrete
>>> questions you ask. So what do you have, and what do you want to get? So
>>> what's in your data, what linked files, linked URLs, and (URL) fields? And
>>> what do you want in the HTML output? Is the information you want in there
>>> available in your data? Do you know about templates, have you read the Wiki
>>> and tried to look at sample templates?
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>
>> Dear Christiaan. I appreciate so much your being straightforward, but I
>> still have to get used to it. So please try and understand, since I'd try to
>> be extremely patient and cooperative if I had to explain to you a current of
>> lesion during STEMI and PCI or the specific prognosis of the takotsubo
>> syndrome
>
> the problem is that you are implicitly making assumptions about the way
> templates are generated and the structure of the data, which are not correct,
> and then ask questions about the result of that assumption. Instead, you
> should say what you have and what you want to get, not what you assume you
> need in the intermediate to get what you want.
>
>> I have a database
>> I have a publication record
>> This record has fields
>> I am looking for a field where to paste
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/21v1rxpvbgb65x0/2008.pdf, but actually I don't
>> know if such one exists
> Here you make the assumption that you can add a field, and put something in
> there, and somehow the content of that field turns up in the generated HTML.
> That assumption is wrong. So you are *not* looking for such a field.
>
>> I created a new field in a single publication record and called it
>> Dropbox-Url and pasted the link
> That does not work because your assumption that arbitrary fields turn up in
> the generated HTML is wrong.
>> I looked at templates
>> I don't know how to sufficiently edit templates
>> I tried to build a template with the template editor as a .txt file and used
>> for export
>> Formatting was terrible, but I actually got my link to appear
>> I'd like to get something like this which comes with the default html
>> template
>> Mokhles:2012aa
>> The risk of new onset heart failure associated with dopamine agonist use in
>> Parkinson's disease
>> M. M. Mokhles and G. Trifirò and J. P. Dieleman and M. D. Haag and E. M. van
>> Soest and K. M. C. Verhamme and G. Mazzaglia and R. Herings and C. d. Luise
>> and D. Ross and G. Brusselle and A. Colao and W. Haverkamp and R. Schade and
>> G. v. Camp and R. Zanettini and M. C. J. M. Sturkenboom
>> Pharmacol Res 65 358-64 (2012)
>> /Users/lalla/Dropbox/Papers/Mokhles/2012.nbib
>>
>> But instead of /Users/lalla/Dropbox/Papers/mypaper
>> id like
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/21v1rxpvbgb65x0/2008.pdf
> Again, one question is: is this information available somewhere in your
> publication items? If it is not, it will never turn up in the template. So
> you should somehow add it.
>> maybe some automation to retrieve the cloud link for any file stored in the
>> local Dropbox folder would be useful IMHO
> Automation of setting this information will not and should not be done in any
> default way. This could be done using AppleScript, possibly through script
> hooks.
>
>> I noticed that I don't know how to create a field common to the entire
>> database
>>
>> Now, I am begging all of you to consider my perspective instead of
>> constantly underscoring my computer science inconsistency.
>
> Its not about computer science. It's about your assumptions on how they work.
> That makes it really confusing, because it makes it unclear what you really
> want. The answer to "what field to use" depends on why you want this field
> and what you want to do with it. And actually you probably don't even want a
> field, but something else. But that is not what you asked.
>
>> If my description is not enough, I will give up.
>> I appreciate your cooperation
>> Daniele Pontillo, MD
>
> So here is what I now think you want (rather than what you think you want):
>
> 1. You have items with linked files (not fields!) located in your local
> Dropbox.
> 2. You want to generate HTML from templates, possibly the default HTML
> template.
> 3. The generated template should contain *remote URLs* to your remote
> Dropbox, associated to those linked files.
>
> Is that correct?
>
> Now to get this you need at least two things:
> 1. Those remote URLs should be added to the item data.
> 2. The template should actually use those remote URLs (wherever they end up)
> in the generated text.
>
> The point is that as it is now, the default HTML template will not do 2 for
> you, so you need to edit the template (or use a custom template). Moreover,
> there are different ways you can do 1, which may or may not involve a field,
> and it depends on what you do in 2.
>
> If all this is correct, I think the best solution is to put the remote URLs
> in the linked URLs (so not in a field, but a URL that turns up in the side
> panes.) Those linked URLs should also turn up in the template, but I just
> noticed that there is an error in the default HTML template. To fix that, you
> should edit the htmlItemExportTemplate.html file (see the Template prefs)
> using a plain text editor, and add $ before the word remoteURLs (twice).
>
> An alternative is to use a field. But then you have to edit the template a
> bit more (could be in the same item template file). For instance, if you put
> the corresponding remote URL in the field "Url", then you could add the
> following line:
>
> <span class="File"><a
> href="<$urls.Url.absoluteString/>"><$urls.Url.absoluteString/></a></span><br
> />
>
> or you could put this line instead of the 3 lines from <$localFiles> to
> </$localFiles>.
>
> Then the next question could be how to automate the synchronization of the
> linked local files with the corresponding remote URLs in your data. For this,
> you should use AppleScript. What this AppleScript looks like depends on
> whether you want to synchronize manually (say, generate the remote URLs in
> all selected items). Or whether you want to have this done automatically
> whenever you add a new linked file, in which case you should use a script
> hook. Moreover what the AppleScript looks like depends on the choices you
> make above (basically, whether you want to put the remote URL in the linked
> URLs, or in the Url field.)
>
> Christiaan
>
>>
>>>
>>>> Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 13:05, Fischlin Andreas
>>>> <[email protected]> ha scritto:
>>>>
>>>>> It seems you do not like the html file. Then edit the template you use
>>>>> accordingly. This has, AFAI can understand you, nothing to do with a
>>>>> field of your publication record in BibDesk nor with Dropbox.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Andreas
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ETH Zurich
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>>>>> Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/04/2013, at 12:51 , Daniele Pontillo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 12:45, Christiaan Hofman
>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:26, Daniele Pontillo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am so sorry I cannot make myself understood. I'll try harder, step by
>>>>> step.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. hahah, I have a publication
>>>>> 2. I have a pdf file I want to link to the publication
>>>>> 3. the pdf is in my dropbox folder
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything clear till now, OK?
>>>>>
>>>>> When I export my database to a HTML file take a look at what I get
>>>>> <link.jpg>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I guess you have a linked file to your local dropbox folder.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. I don't need to display the link to my local folder (/Users/lalla/)
>>>>> 2. I want to find in my publication the APPROPRIATE FIELD to paste the
>>>>> Dropbox server-generated link instead of getting the local file link
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The appropriate field is the field where you put the URL you're talking
>>>>> about. If you did not put a URL in a field, then there is no appropriate
>>>>> field.
>>>>>
>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Christiaan, I guess that this Italian cardiologist is really too
>>>>> dumb as for computer science. But listen carefully:
>>>>> please give me the name of the field where I can place the link and that
>>>>> would be displayed in an HTML output
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 12:15, Christiaan Hofman
>>>>> <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:47, Daniele Pontillo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello again everybody.
>>>>> Since there are some issues in identifuing the field in which local pdfs
>>>>> are stored (in order to find and replace the url) I will ask another
>>>>> question
>>>>> I linked my publication to the file on the dropbox server
>>>>> (https://www.dropbox.com/s/21v1rxpvbgb65x0/2008.pdf) placing it in the
>>>>> remote-url field.
>>>>> What syntax should I use and which file should I edit to get the
>>>>> remote-url link instead of the local file link displayed on the exported
>>>>> HTML file ?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>> You're confusing again. Are you talking about linked files, linked remote
>>>>> URLs, or a field called "Remote-Url"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Christiaan
>>>>>
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