Il giorno 05/apr/2013, alle ore 10:38, Fischlin Andreas <[email protected]> ha scritto:
> > On 04/04/2013, at 21:23 , Daniele Pontillo wrote: > > Thank you very much > Obviously this is totally useless for me. > It's a matter of communication > > No, of the way one thinks. The help given by Christiaan is indeed I believe > very, very helpful and probably right on the spot, so I have a hard time to > understand why you say it is useless. I guess it is the solution for your > problem from all what I have understood so far. Even a rather easy one. Maybe you're right. Thanks again > > BTW, I have written AppleScripts and offer them from my home page that do > extract bibliographies in html form that can be used by colleagues. I do NOT > offer there Dropbox links of the kind you seem to have in mind, but that may > not be what you really want. You could easily extract with my script 'Extract > Bibliography' the currently in BibDesk selected publications and then save > the html index together with the pdf's to a Dropbox folder that you share > with your colleagues. That way each of you could share fully all information, > e.g. by double clicking in the index file the pdf links or doi links or other > URL links from any browser that has the html file opened. This works also > very well from iOS devices, e.g. using App GoodReader in an iPad that has > access to the wanted Dropbox folder. Maybe you're right. Thanks again.It doesn't create the HTML file, for me > > My webpage http://www.sysecol.ethz.ch/people/afischli link Software -> > BibDesk: AppleScripts > > Regards, > Andreas > > > > > > Inviato da iPhone > > Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 20:52, Christiaan Hofman > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto: > > > On Apr 4, 2013, at 19:53, Daniele Pontillo wrote: > > > Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 19:12, Christiaan Hofman > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ha scritto: > > > On Apr 4, 2013, at 13:40, Daniele Pontillo wrote: > > You almost got it right, almost > I don't like my HTML file, but I don't know how to edit the file itself. > Which field should I use to paste my Dropbox-generated link? And what is the > syntax to edit the HTML file in order to get an appropriate output? > > > You are still confusing different things. the problem is that what you say > you want to get, or what you have, is not consistent with the concrete > questions you ask. So what do you have, and what do you want to get? So > what's in your data, what linked files, linked URLs, and (URL) fields? And > what do you want in the HTML output? Is the information you want in there > available in your data? Do you know about templates, have you read the Wiki > and tried to look at sample templates? > > Christiaan > > Dear Christiaan. I appreciate so much your being straightforward, but I still > have to get used to it. So please try and understand, since I'd try to be > extremely patient and cooperative if I had to explain to you a current of > lesion during STEMI and PCI or the specific prognosis of the takotsubo > syndrome > > > the problem is that you are implicitly making assumptions about the way > templates are generated and the structure of the data, which are not correct, > and then ask questions about the result of that assumption. Instead, you > should say what you have and what you want to get, not what you assume you > need in the intermediate to get what you want. > > > 1. I have a database > 2. I have a publication record > 3. This record has fields > 4. I am looking for a field where to paste > https://www.dropbox.com/s/21v1rxpvbgb65x0/2008.pdf, but actually I don't know > if such one exists > > Here you make the assumption that you can add a field, and put something in > there, and somehow the content of that field turns up in the generated HTML. > That assumption is wrong. So you are *not* looking for such a field. > > > 1. I created a new field in a single publication record and called it > Dropbox-Url and pasted the link > > That does not work because your assumption that arbitrary fields turn up in > the generated HTML is wrong. > > 1. I looked at templates > 2. I don't know how to sufficiently edit templates > 3. I tried to build a template with the template editor as a .txt file and > used for export > 4. Formatting was terrible, but I actually got my link to appear > 5. I'd like to get something like this which comes with the default html > template > > Mokhles:2012aa > The risk of new onset heart failure associated with dopamine agonist use in > Parkinson's disease > M. M. Mokhles and G. Trifirò and J. P. Dieleman and M. D. Haag and E. M. van > Soest and K. M. C. Verhamme and G. Mazzaglia and R. Herings and C. d. Luise > and D. Ross and G. Brusselle and A. Colao and W. Haverkamp and R. Schade and > G. v. Camp and R. Zanettini and M. C. J. M. Sturkenboom > Pharmacol Res 65 358-64 (2012) > /Users/lalla/Dropbox/Papers/Mokhles/2012.nbib<file:///Users/lalla/Dropbox/Papers/Mokhles/2012.nbib> > > > * But instead of /Users/lalla/Dropbox/Papers/mypaper > * id like > * https://www.dropbox.com/s/21v1rxpvbgb65x0/2008.pdf > > Again, one question is: is this information available somewhere in your > publication items? If it is not, it will never turn up in the template. So > you should somehow add it. > > * maybe some automation to retrieve the cloud link for any file stored in > the local Dropbox folder would be useful IMHO > > Automation of setting this information will not and should not be done in any > default way. This could be done using AppleScript, possibly through script > hooks. > > I noticed that I don't know how to create a field common to the entire > database > > Now, I am begging all of you to consider my perspective instead of constantly > underscoring my computer science inconsistency. > > Its not about computer science. It's about your assumptions on how they work. > That makes it really confusing, because it makes it unclear what you really > want. The answer to "what field to use" depends on why you want this field > and what you want to do with it. And actually you probably don't even want a > field, but something else. But that is not what you asked. > > If my description is not enough, I will give up. > I appreciate your cooperation > Daniele Pontillo, MD > > > So here is what I now think you want (rather than what you think you want): > > 1. You have items with linked files (not fields!) located in your local > Dropbox. > 2. You want to generate HTML from templates, possibly the default HTML > template. > 3. The generated template should contain *remote URLs* to your remote > Dropbox, associated to those linked files. > > Is that correct? > > Now to get this you need at least two things: > 1. Those remote URLs should be added to the item data. > 2. The template should actually use those remote URLs (wherever they end up) > in the generated text. > > The point is that as it is now, the default HTML template will not do 2 for > you, so you need to edit the template (or use a custom template). Moreover, > there are different ways you can do 1, which may or may not involve a field, > and it depends on what you do in 2. > > If all this is correct, I think the best solution is to put the remote URLs > in the linked URLs (so not in a field, but a URL that turns up in the side > panes.) Those linked URLs should also turn up in the template, but I just > noticed that there is an error in the default HTML template. To fix that, you > should edit the htmlItemExportTemplate.html file (see the Template prefs) > using a plain text editor, and add $ before the word remoteURLs (twice). > > An alternative is to use a field. But then you have to edit the template a > bit more (could be in the same item template file). For instance, if you put > the corresponding remote URL in the field "Url", then you could add the > following line: > > <span class="File"><a > href="<$urls.Url.absoluteString/>"><$urls.Url.absoluteString/></a></span><br > /> > > or you could put this line instead of the 3 lines from <$localFiles> to > </$localFiles>. > > Then the next question could be how to automate the synchronization of the > linked local files with the corresponding remote URLs in your data. For this, > you should use AppleScript. What this AppleScript looks like depends on > whether you want to synchronize manually (say, generate the remote URLs in > all selected items). Or whether you want to have this done automatically > whenever you add a new linked file, in which case you should use a script > hook. Moreover what the AppleScript looks like depends on the choices you > make above (basically, whether you want to put the remote URL in the linked > URLs, or in the Url field.) > > Christiaan > > > > Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 13:05, Fischlin Andreas > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> ha > scritto: > > It seems you do not like the html file. Then edit the template you use > accordingly. This has, AFAI can understand you, nothing to do with a field of > your publication record in BibDesk nor with Dropbox. > > Regards, > Andreas > > > ETH Zurich > Prof. Dr. Andreas Fischlin > Systems Ecology - Institute of Integrative Biology > CHN E 21.1 > Universitaetstrasse 16 > 8092 Zurich > SWITZERLAND > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]> > www.sysecol.ethz.ch<http://www.sysecol.ethz.ch/><http://www.sysecol.ethz.ch<http://www.sysecol.ethz.ch/>> > > +41 44 633-6090 phone > +41 44 633-1136 fax > +41 79 595-4050 mobile > > Make it as simple as possible, but distrust it! > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > On 04/04/2013, at 12:51 , Daniele Pontillo wrote: > > > Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 12:45, Christiaan Hofman > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> ha > scritto: > > > On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:26, Daniele Pontillo wrote: > > I am so sorry I cannot make myself understood. I'll try harder, step by step. > > > 1. hahah, I have a publication > 2. I have a pdf file I want to link to the publication > 3. the pdf is in my dropbox folder > > Everything clear till now, OK? > > When I export my database to a HTML file take a look at what I get > <link.jpg> > > Well, I guess you have a linked file to your local dropbox folder. > > > 1. I don't need to display the link to my local folder (/Users/lalla/) > 2. I want to find in my publication the APPROPRIATE FIELD to paste the > Dropbox server-generated link instead of getting the local file link > > > The appropriate field is the field where you put the URL you're talking > about. If you did not put a URL in a field, then there is no appropriate > field. > > Christiaan > > Dear Christiaan, I guess that this Italian cardiologist is really too dumb > as for computer science. But listen carefully: > please give me the name of the field where I can place the link and that > would be displayed in an HTML output > > > Il giorno 04/apr/2013, alle ore 12:15, Christiaan Hofman > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>> ha > scritto: > > > On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:47, Daniele Pontillo wrote: > > Hello again everybody. > Since there are some issues in identifuing the field in which local pdfs are > stored (in order to find and replace the url) I will ask another question > I linked my publication to the file on the dropbox server > (https://www.dropbox.com/s/21v1rxpvbgb65x0/2008.pdf) placing it in the > remote-url field. > What syntax should I use and which file should I edit to get the remote-url > link instead of the local file link displayed on the exported HTML file ? > Thanks > Dan > > You're confusing again. 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