I think this whole discussion is much ado about nothing.  I'm sure the
way it will be addressed is that the city will make quite sure that the
trains will not make a lengthy stop at a station while blocking a major
arterial.  Judging from estimates of ridership that I've seen, I doubt
that trains will be longer than four cars.  The time it takes these to
cross an intersection, including time for the gates to go down, is
probably less than thirty seconds.  We're not talking about a 200-car
freight train.

I am actually surprised that this keeps surfacing as an issue.  I'm
guessing it's because transit opponents either don't know the difference
between a four-car train and a 200-car one, or that they assume that all
train stations will be designed in such a way to maximize waiting and
blocking of commuter traffic.  Which, I'm certain, is not the case.

In any event, Joe is correct in mentioning that the initial routes
generally go parallel, rather than perpendicular, to the major
arterials.  But the issue keeps cropping up, so maybe the Transport 2020
people should address it officially, if they haven't already.  I
remember a headline from the Scab Urinal from a while back that said
(I'm paraphrasing), "Commuter Rail Will Increase Congestion," and
talking about the traffic backed up while waiting the 20 seconds for the
train to pass.  Should we have a headline saying, "Stop Lights Increase
Congestion."

We've had these same tired discussions with the nimbyites in the
Schenk-Atwood neighborhood who are pulling out all the stops in trying
to derail high-speed rail.


>>> Joseph King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/22/03 01:08PM >>>
It is not clear how or where this should be addressed.

When applied to the most talked about commuter line, however, it is
mostly 
absurd.  

In any event, it would be nice to have a traffic model that
demonstrates 
what the overall short-term and long-term effects on travel time would
be 


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