Actually Joe, it is more often than 30 minutes because the trains go both ways.  
Furthermore, during peak times there will probably be more units leaving productive 
locations.  Fact is, we will loose some "green time" out of intersections such as 
Blair/John Nolen and Campus Drive/Highland.  

But, we have options for commuters versus taking corridors that we know will be 
congested, with or without commuter rail.

It is really our only chance to add capacity to the system.  With the completion of 
the Causeway (1968) and Campus Drive (1970) the only capacity we have added to the 
system between the near west and the near east is at Park Street between Regent and 
Dayton and the bike paths.

Larry D. Nelson
City Engineer
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Telephone 608-267-4227

>>> Joseph King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 01/22/03 01:08PM >>>
Not to bring down the high level of discourse but the following statement 
does effectively tap into a fear of people who might not otherwise care.

>With trains expected to roll every 30 minutes during peak times, Roach said
>the traffic jams created at the railroad crossings will fray the nerves of
>drivers and quickly turn public sentiment against all forms of mass transit.

It is not clear how or where this should be addressed.

When applied to the most talked about commuter line, however, it is mostly 
absurd.  The route from Mazo to Shorewood crosses how many major arterials 
at grade?  Two?  That is true only if you consider both Gammon and Whitney 
Way to be major arterials.  How long will the gates be down?  In the case 
of Whitney Way the stoppage could be tied into the traffic light (perhaps 
it already is).

In any event, it would be nice to have a traffic model that demonstrates 
what the overall short-term and long-term effects on travel time would be 
(the later assuming a reasonable impact of the train on SOV trips).

How many crossings from Shorewood to downtown, you ask?  I'm not looking at 
a map but I think we have University Ave. and West Washington.  I'm not 
sure where else.  I guess if the Roachites really think this is such a 
major problem then they won't mind paying extra to build an above or below 
grade crossing of Unv. Ave. -- problem solved.  I wouldn't be surprised to 
find that the traffic counts on all of the other crossings are half or less 
than half what the University Ave crossing sees.  What's Whitney Way, 40K?

-joe

Joseph King
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