Speed bumps - drivers might look at them instead of bicyclists crossing the street?
What wrong with a 4-stop sign on Glenway St. at the bike path (other than drivers don't like to stop) anyway? I still think that would be the best way to calm the traffic and prevent crashes as well. Mike Neuman ----------------- Former Messages --------------- Hmmm - City's argument re: speed humps and emergency vehicles seems specious. If a squad of golfers are blasted by lightning on the Nakoma golf course along Manitou Way, an ambulance is going to negotiate up to 4 or 5 speed humps to get them to a hospital. Surely then an emergency vehicle could negotiate ONE hump on Glenway. If the speed of emergency vehicles were such a major factor, then we'd have 55 mph speeds on all streets in the city. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 8:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [Bikies] Glenway St. Intersection with Southwest Multi-use Path ------ In Reply To --------- > Re: [Bikies] Glenway St. Intersection with Southwest Multi-use Path Mitchell Nussbaum Mon, 20 Jun 2005 22:27:55 -0700 Stop signs work fine when drivers obey them, and most drivers do obey them, more or less, but when drivers don't pay attention, the signs can fail catastrophically. A few weeks ago, for example, I was riding down Regent St. near Hilldale on a bright sunny day. While I was passing through the Owen Dr. intersection, a driver on S. Owen stopped at the stop sign. Then she apparently decided I didn't exist, hit the accelerator, and came within inches of my bike. This sort of incident doesn't happen to me very often, but it has happened before, and it's not very pleasant. Unfortunately, bikes do not always register in the consciousness of drivers at stopped signs, and I think their attention might be even worse than usual at a four-way stop with a bike path (which is not a "real street," after all, and not really worthy of respect). So I worry that bikers crossing Glenway who rely on a four-way stop for protection might sometimes be disappointed. If we want to slow down traffic on Glenway and improve bike safety, I think the City will have to lay down some concrete, one way or another. I'd like to suggest a raised crossing, like the one in front of the City-County Building; it would act as a speed hump and make the bike path more visible. > Nothing is going to be 100% effective all the time in stopping collisions at intersections (except maybe a 6 foot thick concrete wall). At least with a 4-way stop, drivers that obey the sign are not going to be traveling that fast. You say you'd like to suggest a raise crossing that would act as a speed hump and make the bike path more visible. Didn't you read my message? You are S-O-L if you don't reside in the immediate area of Glenway Street. You don't get to vote. Anyway, as for raised concrete, the city engineer said speed bumps can't be used on Glenway, because it's a route used often by emergency vehicles (of something to that effect). Mike _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies
