Trolled indeed.

Absurd harshness?  If someone demonstrates that they can not safely
handle the privilege of operating a motor vehicle, then they should
have that privilege revoked.  This is a serious issue and peoples'
lives are at stake.  It may be true that drunk driving penalties are
getting "harsher", (read "more appropriate") but it appears that they
have not yet gotten nearly "harsh" enough yet.  If a person can not
handle the responsibilities associated with operating potentially
dangerous heavy machinery without putting others' lives at risk, they
should not continue to be given more "chances".  Drunk driving is
responsible for thousands of preventable fatalities per year, yet it
continues to happen.

As for the budgetary red herring, if we got drunk drivers off the
roads, everyone else could save money on insurance.  The idea that we
should be more lenient to save money, while risking innocent people's
lives is what is absurd.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Robert F. Nagel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jul 6, 2005 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: [Bikies] Driver Identified
To: [email protected]


I've trolled this bikie list for a few months now, but this is my first
post.  I am a criminal defense lawyer.  The death of a bicyclist or a
pedestrian or even a motor vehicle driver or passenger is a tragedy, but
this tragedy is not mitigated by ranting and raving about "absurd leniency"
toward repeat offenders.  I represent repeat offenders and I've seen a lot
more absurd harshness in punishment than absurd leniency.  You're fighting a
losing battle trying to imprison every last drunk driver forever and ever.
Drunk driving penalties keep getting harsher and harsher all the time.  Does
that seem to be deterring drunk driving?  Apparently not sufficiently.
Meanwhile, our state budget is bled dry by the bloated corrections' budget.
Perhaps with not so harsh and costly punishment, there'd be more money for
your agency, DNR, and more money for safe bike paths and pedestrian
improvements, not to mention driver education, and alcohol treatment and
other sorts of proactive, prevention-oriented measures.

And if the moderator of this list-serve deems me to be an infidel and
banishes me, that's a risk I'm willing to take.


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Law Offices of Robert Nagel
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Madison, WI  53703
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www.nagel-law.com






-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Schimpff, Jeff A
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 10:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Bikies] Driver Identified

Also an indication of the absurd leniency bestowed upon repeat offenders by
our court system.  One killer in the past several years had 12 previous OWI
charges.  This lack of respect for the public welfare endangers all
cyclists, pedestrians, and motorists, as well.  We need to remember this
whenever elected judgeships are open, and when those who appoint judges are
up for election.

Perhaps repeat traffic offenders need to be registered and treated like sex
offenders, but their housing should be located near a bus route so they can
traverse their communities without a motor vehicle.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Behalf Of Michael Rewey
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Bikies] Driver Identified


The driver who hit Jess Bullen has been identified as Tracy J. Sorum, 29.
She has an extensive Traffic Record.  It's an indication of how the driver
may have been driving on Hope Road.

2002
        Operating while suspended
        Operating w/o carrying a license
        Operating while intoxicated (2nd offense)

1999
        Failure to notify police of an accident
        Hit and Run - property adjacent to highway
        Driving too fast for conditions
        Speeding on freeway (20-24 MPH)

1998
        Hit and Run - unattended vehicle
        Failure to notify police of accident
        Operate w/o valid license

1996
        Operation w/o required lamps lighted
        Speeding in 55 MPH zone (20-24 MPH)

1995
        Speeding violations

Non-traffic
        1997 -  Disorderly Conduct
        1997 -  Possession of THC
                        Possess drug paraphernalia
        1996 -  Underage Person Possess/Consume Alcohol









Michael Rewey
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"So many roads, So little time..."
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