---- Scott Webb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> Never have I seen a more practical location for a bike/pedestrian  
> tunnel. Not just for the SWP bike traffic, but for game day foot  
> traffic. The neighborhood association is so well put together they  
> would keep it tidy and attractive.

This sounds nightmarish at best. SWP traffic and game day foot traffic go in 
totally different directions. If the direction of the tunnel favors game day 
traffic, it would constitute a "permanent detour" for the SWP. As a tunnel, 
there would be no "outs" as there are with open ground on the sides of a path. 
Game day foot traffic would effectively close the tunnel to bike traffic. 

A pedestrian tunnel under the whole intersection, going north-to-south, for the 
Field House / stadium sounds like a good idea, but just as a pedestrian tunnel, 
not as a replacement for the SWP as a thoroughfare.

And yes, Mitch, this discussion reminded me of the Portland "scramble signal" 
as well. But that's just more "separate but [not quite] equal". Would they 
design the intersection so that, say, car traffic on Monroe Street would ALWAYS 
have to stop, until someone reached out of her car and pressed a button? Why 
should traffic on the SWP have to?

A couple of weeks ago, we discussed another negative consequence, affecting the 
GENERAL public safety, of paths like the SWP having "second class" status, when 
a 911 dispatcher didn't have it on her/his "map". Now comes another negative 
consequence. These issues would mostly disappear if thoroughfares like this 
were put on an equal footing (eek, bad pun!) with those for cars.
---------------
Paul T. O'Leary
Chronic Nuisance
Madison, WI USA

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