Dear Michael D. Barret, Have you not seen that "bikies" wishes us BOTH to SHUT UP? Or is their request just one sided? Possibly you should consider their wishes?
Eric "Michael D. Barrett" wrote: > Thanks, Eric, for bringing this to the group and for the great > analysis. You're pretty much dead on. Shoup is a genius! It is good > to see this stuff happening. > > > I understand, but have no details, that Madison's Urban Design > >Commission is already considering quality controls. > > Make that, *has been instituting* quality controls. Or at least *had* > been. It's the sort of thing that gets you thrown off of commissions > by "green" mayors. (My old buddies on UDC reassure me they are > continuing to push, as they now call them, "The MB Rules" on parking > and pedestrian connectivity & bike amenities though!) > > I'm glad Gruber is doing it. I just hope it isn't his undoing! Tim > has been a very astute learner of all this New Urbanist stuff. His > constituents on this list should thank him for this work. > > UDC--as a group--was really doing yeoman work on parking standards. > They were far, far ahead of even the enviro groups around here. > Midwest Environmental Advocates recently put out a Big Box Store > design guide in which they suggested up to 6 parking stalls/1000 sf.! > UDC typically aimed for *no more than* 3 per 1000 even in big box > land; the result was generally right around that. Sometimes less, > sometimes more, but almost never more than 4. And of course, even > those numbers are ultimately quite high when you look at the actual > usage. As I keep saying, Google Earth any area of Madison built after > 1960, and note that in any one square block area, no more than 1/3 of > the parking is used (excluding car sales lots). And on street parking > isn't used at all. > > > > > > >The Plan Commission on Monday asked staff to analyze the proposals > >and report back in a month. > > That is fine, as far as it goes. With a few exceptions, Plan Dept > staff isn't exactly noted for being well-read in anything post, > +/-1970. So it would be good for folks to encourage their respective > alders to be visionary on this, and just go over the heads of staff > in the end. > > And then there is this: > > > > >This will be a hard sell, probably, because people who hate freedom > >will object that relaxing government controls is somehow a > >totalitarian scheme to make everyone gay. > > BWHAAHAAHAAHAAAH! Exactly! > > Thanks, again, Eric. > -Mike > _______________________________________________ > Bikies mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies _______________________________________________ Bikies mailing list [email protected] http://www.danenet.org/mailman/listinfo/bikies
