---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: e. hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Dec 11, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [milbtw] Bicycling and ATV issue to be aware of To: Jack Hirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
consider ignoring these manipulative attacks. it only drags the name of bicycles thru the mud (ha!) there is really no comparison to the damage a bike does to that of an atv. refuting this issue only tangles us in a non-sequitor and make this look like a tribal fight. not a principled discussion. On Dec 11, 2007 11:21 AM, Jack Hirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Please read the following summary made by the Bicycle Federation of WI. > This probably does not affect everyone on this list, but it is an issue to > be aware of. > > Thanks, Jack E. Hirt > The Bicycle Federation of WI > > As some of you might know, the WATVA (Wisconsin All Terrain Vehicle > Association) > is using Renee Callaway's video and photos of the Hales Corners CX race as > > "evidence" that our sport damages public lands and that we are > irresponsible > stewards of the properties on which we race. This, of course, is in > response to > our stance that ATVs do not belong on bicycle trails (such as the Badger > State > Trail), as the damage they > inflict on non-motorized trails renders them unridable to bicyclists. > > Furthermore, the ATV lobby has picked up on the article in the Milwaukee > Journal-Sentinel that happened to mention "30 packs of Pabst" at the Hales > > Corners race, and is attempting to portray us as a bunch of idiots who get > drunk > and rip up public lands on our bicycles. > > Renee and the Bike Fed of Wisconsin have already posted rebuttals to their > idiocy, with Renee's response being particularly effective coming from an > actual race director. However, I'd like to remind everyone that we're being > scrutinized by people who are out to put an end to our sport and to deny us > what we love to do. > > Some of the more "interesting" quotations from the minds of ATV'ers: > > "Thanks for sharing pictures of 50 of the stupidest, vandals in the state > of > Wisconsin. Everyone on the race roster as well as the race organizers > should be > issued a ticket for destruction of public property." > > "How much you want to bet that taxpayers money is going to be used to fix > the > damage. The map shows how much of the park they damaged, even across > baseball > fields." > > Let's use this as a gentle reminder that good stewardship of the public > parks is > a MUST, and that we ALL must lend a hand to repair the slight damage that > we > inflict on trails following a race. > > Thanks for reading > The Bicycle Federation of WI > > __._,_.___ Messages in this topic > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/message/5339;_ylc=X3oDMTM0OHQ3c3I3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBG1zZ0lkAzUzMzkEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDdnRwYwRzdGltZQMxMTk3MzkzNjc1BHRwY0lkAzUzMzk->( > 1) Reply (via web post) > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJwOTQzNXNpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBG1zZ0lkAzUzMzkEc2VjA2Z0cgRzbGsDcnBseQRzdGltZQMxMTk3MzkzNjc1?act=reply&messageNum=5339>| > Start > a new topic > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJlM21uZTRpBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA250cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzM5MzY3NQ--> > Messages > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/messages;_ylc=X3oDMTJlY2xrdTQxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA21zZ3MEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzM5MzY3NQ-->| > Files > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/files;_ylc=X3oDMTJmaWwybmw2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2ZpbGVzBHN0aW1lAzExOTczOTM2NzU->| > Photos > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/photos;_ylc=X3oDMTJlaXU5aDIxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3Bob3QEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzM5MzY3NQ-->| > Links > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/links;_ylc=X3oDMTJmajd0Ym04BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2xpbmtzBHN0aW1lAzExOTczOTM2NzU->| > Database > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/database;_ylc=X3oDMTJjczZrNWNnBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2RiBHN0aW1lAzExOTczOTM2NzU->| > Polls > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/polls;_ylc=X3oDMTJmZGJqNmN2BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3BvbGxzBHN0aW1lAzExOTczOTM2NzU->| > Members > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/members;_ylc=X3oDMTJlbjIyZzk0BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA21icnMEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzM5MzY3NQ-->| > Calendar > > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/calendar;_ylc=X3oDMTJka3NicnRxBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2NhbARzdGltZQMxMTk3MzkzNjc1> > To Post a message, send it to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe, send a blank message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MARKETPLACE > ------------------------------ > Earn your degree in as few as 2 years - Advance your career with an AS, > BS, MS > degree<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12m54efgv/M=571476.11873916.12370328.11509771/D=groups/S=1707208873:MKP1/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1197400875/A=5086951/R=0/SIG=12k0vbbc9/*http://college-finder.net/index.cfm?key=yahoo_colfngrouptxt_11873916&c=CA152932587>- > College-Finder.net. > [image: Yahoo! > Groups]<http://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkOTZkMm9wBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMTk3MzkzNjc1> > Change settings via the Web > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw/join;_ylc=X3oDMTJmb2ZwMTU3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA3N0bmdzBHN0aW1lAzExOTczOTM2NzU->(Yahoo! > ID required) > Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest<[EMAIL > PROTECTED]:+Digest>| Switch > format to Traditional<[EMAIL PROTECTED]:+Traditional> > Visit Your Group > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw;_ylc=X3oDMTJkdWY5NTVmBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2hwZgRzdGltZQMxMTk3MzkzNjc1>| > Yahoo! > Groups Terms of Use <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/> | Unsubscribe > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Visit Your Group > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/milbtw;_ylc=X3oDMTJlMTVtbzBoBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzE1NTA2MDcEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA3MjA4ODczBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTE5NzM5MzY3NQ--> > Need traffic? > > Drive > customers<http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jthl2lr/M=493064.10729656.11333347.8674578/D=groups/S=1707208873:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1197400875/A=3848644/R=0/SIG=131l83flq/*http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/srchv2.php?o=US2006&cmp=Yahoo&ctv=Groups5&s=Y&s2=&s3=&b=50> > > With search ads > > on Yahoo! > Food Lovers > > Real Food Group > <http://us.ard.yahoo.com/SIG=12jojd2be/M=493064.11036139.11614791.8674578/D=groups/S=1707208873:NC/Y=YAHOO/EXP=1197400875/A=4763757/R=0/SIG=1192rfjiu/*http://groups.yahoo.com/group/realfood/> > > on Yahoo! 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