Well, if you watch the vid, they sure trashed the turf, no getting around that. Can't really 'fix' it til next spring. Ann M. Freiwald, ASLA
________________________________ From: e.hay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:41 PM To: Milwaukee Bikes; [email protected] Subject: [Bikies] Fwd: [milbtw] Bicycling and ATV issue to be aware of ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: e. hay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Dec 11, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [milbtw] Bicycling and ATV issue to be aware of To: Jack Hirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> consider ignoring these manipulative attacks. it only drags the name of bicycles thru the mud (ha!) there is really no comparison to the damage a bike does to that of an atv. refuting this issue only tangles us in a non-sequitor and make this look like a tribal fight. not a principled discussion. On Dec 11, 2007 11:21 AM, Jack Hirt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Please read the following summary made by the Bicycle Federation of WI. This probably does not affect everyone on this list, but it is an issue to be aware of. Thanks, Jack E. Hirt The Bicycle Federation of WI As some of you might know, the WATVA (Wisconsin All Terrain Vehicle Association) is using Renee Callaway's video and photos of the Hales Corners CX race as "evidence" that our sport damages public lands and that we are irresponsible stewards of the properties on which we race. This, of course, is in response to our stance that ATVs do not belong on bicycle trails (such as the Badger State Trail), as the damage they inflict on non-motorized trails renders them unridable to bicyclists. Furthermore, the ATV lobby has picked up on the article in the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel that happened to mention "30 packs of Pabst" at the Hales Corners race, and is attempting to portray us as a bunch of idiots who get drunk and rip up public lands on our bicycles. Renee and the Bike Fed of Wisconsin have already posted rebuttals to their idiocy, with Renee's response being particularly effective coming from an actual race director. However, I'd like to remind everyone that we're being scrutinized by people who are out to put an end to our sport and to deny us what we love to do. Some of the more "interesting" quotations from the minds of ATV'ers: "Thanks for sharing pictures of 50 of the stupidest, vandals in the state of Wisconsin. Everyone on the race roster as well as the race organizers should be issued a ticket for destruction of public property." "How much you want to bet that taxpayers money is going to be used to fix the damage. The map shows how much of the park they damaged, even across baseball fields." Let's use this as a gentle reminder that good stewardship of the public parks is a MUST, and that we ALL must lend a hand to repair the slight damage that we inflict on trails following a race. 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