Dear Wolfgang Licht,

That is swell.  You say that when that orange hand tells me to stop as a pedestrian, I can walk if the coast is clear?  Is that just in Madison, or is that more universal, these days?

Eric Westhagen

Wolfgang Licht wrote:

Because you're not required to wait. Pedestrians can legally proceed against the light if the coast is clear. 
 
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Eric Westhagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dear Group,

Bikes are much more like fast moving pedestrians than they are like cars.  And
motorcycles should be treated no differently  than cars.  (I have referred to small
cars as "enclosed motorcycles" since they came on the scene.)

That said, as has been pointed out here,  yielding only in controlled intersections
is not self evident to most.  Even if it makes no practical sense to stop,
particularly when a bicycle can cause little damage to cars and would be held
responsible, a large portion of regulation might have had a valid purpose, but in
practice disadvantages more than it helps.

I am probably one of the few you might see standing at a light-controlled
intersection without a car in sight----waiting for the "light" to allow me to
"walk."  When I finally get my feet in motion, I say to myself, "Why didn't you
walk--dummy?"

So, that is the rub.  If pedestrians are supposed to stand there on an empty street
waiting for the orange--"wait" to turn to the new command--"walk", how can the case
be made for bicycles to not do the same silly thing?

Eric Westhagen

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