I timed it this morning.  The all-red phase is 3 seconds.  Plus at least a 3 
second yellow 
phase. 

On 26 Sep 2009 at 21:27, robert paolino wrote:

> 
> On Sat, 2009-09-26 at 20:02 -0500, Michael Rewey wrote:
> > Good grief!  Don't start alibiing the car driver's bad behavior.  The bus 
> > was already moving 
> > forward off the GREEN light.  The bicyclist was not a young stud.  He was 
> > 57!  Plus there is 
> > an ALL RED phase before the light turns green.
> 
> I don't think Harry was excusing the MV driver's violation in any way.
> The way I read it, he was simply saying that we (whether as bicyclist,
> as pedestrian, or as MV driver) need to be alert/aware/careful and not
> assume anything about the behaviour of other users of the road.
> 
> (I'm also not clear on why the bicyclist's age should be relevant to
> this discussion, whether 57 or 17.)
> 
> 
> -- 
> Now go have a beer,
> 
> Bob Paolino
> 
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