And on the cameras--Daryl,--P.S.  The cheap cameras can crank up the sensitivity which amounts to the same as putting faster film in a "camera", but as in film, the tradeoff is grain--now called "static."  So, to read the license, one would need to set that down to 100 or a setting comparable with PlusX--again requiring more light with a fast shutter speed.--EW

Eric Westhagen wrote:
"And for Daryl,---" That was not the point with the f2.8 which is usaully on cheap point and shoot cameras.  Have you noticed that when such a camera is set on "auto" it adjusts by slowing the shutter when more light is needed.  Soon a person has a time exposure without a tripod---get the idea about the lens for zipping along on a moving helmet trying to record a license?  You need the guarantee of a 1/1000 of a second or faster with a manual setting and enough light for the circumstances.  In good daylight, your f2.8 should (might) work.  EW

Darryl Jordan wrote:
Mark; 

The Camera Company in Madison has them in stock the last time I looked in the last week or so. 
I thought of getting one to use for Ride the Drive, but I was concerned that the extreme fish-eye effect would make my subjects too small and/or have too low-resolution to enlarge effectively for publishable stills. However, that won't stop me from wanting one anyway.
Regarding the wide angle effect for recording near misses, I think the camera will work well to identify ne'er-do-wells on the street. The only thing is that camera would have to be going all the time.
And for Eric, the f2.8 setting is academic as far as sharpness and depth-of-field because since it is a very very short focal length lens, the aperture is pretty danged small to begin with so depth-of-field is sharp at normal picture taking distances. A manual camera would be fine for single frame snap-shots, but I would prefer a hands-off movie camera to photograph a problematic driver because is those situations I would prefer to have both hands on the handle bar ready to hit the brakes, not the camera. 

Darryl

--- On Mon, 10/12/09, Mark Clear <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Mark Clear <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Egging...and recording
To:
Cc: [email protected]
Date: Monday, October 12, 2009, 5:55 PM

This one looks pretty sweet. $190. We could take up a bikies collection
and buy one for Mindy. :)
http://www.sonicraven.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GHHW5170

On 10/12/2009 4:14 PM Dave Erickson wrote:
>
> I’ve seen ads for helmet mounted video cams targeted at skiers, off
> road riders etc. I don’t remember what they cost.
>

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