I keep hearing that when they tried TWLTL on N. Sherman a few years ago,
it was a disaster, but I don't understand why.  What bothered people about
that configuration?  What should be done differently if they try again?



Patrick Lenon wrote:
>
> I live on "regular not North" Sherman, as I constantly have to tell
> delivery people, and no, I don't ride North Sherman either.  If I have to
> get somewhere on North Sherman and can't cut through Maple Bluff I ride
> the sidewalks.  It's the only place in the city where I have to do that.
>
> I was around when they tried a stretch of TWLTL right by Northgate.  The
> alder is right, it was massively unpopular.  Many folks never quite
> figured it out.  People might handle it better if it was the whole length
> of Sherman, or at least until it becomes Fordem.  However, there are a lot
> of people that use N. Sherman as an expressway and they will demand the 4
> lanes remain.
>
> Another problem is that Sherman seems to be an odd size, exactly wide
> enough for 4 narrow lanes but not very flexible for anything else.
>
> I'd like to see one of two things:
>
> 1) Switch N. Sherman to two lanes plus bike lanes, and let the speeders
> whine until they get used to it or re-route to Packers/Northport.
>
> 2) Alternate would be a north/south bike path behind (east of) Northgate,
> maybe through the rail corridor?  Could that link up with the proposed
> North side to downtown cut through?  Just speculatin' here.
>
> ------------
> Patrick Lenon
>
>
>
> Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2009 10:34:55 -0500
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> CC: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Bikies] still no bike lanes on Sherman
>
> Kathryn (and others with similar feelings and experience) -
>
> I hope you have expressed your concerns and shopping habits to the owners
> of those businesses. That is one of the primary ways to get this resolved
> - get the business community to see that bike lanes will IMPROVE access to
> their businesses.
>
>
> Right now they fear the Two-way Left Turn Lane (TWLTL) because they think
> people won't be able to make a left to get to their store. Or people won't
> drive on Sherman at all because it will be congested or confusing. All
> unfounded. It will be easier to drive and make a turn on Sherman with the
> new design.
>
>
> We have to speak up instead of accepting second class status on the road
> or in parking accommodations. I assure you that people driving speak up
> when they don't like the traffic or parking situation near a business!
>
> Robbie Webber
> Bike Walk Madison Steering Committee
>   www.bikewalkmadison.org
> Join our group on Facebook!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 10:11 AM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> The funny thing about this is that, although I live on Sherman Ave., I
> patronize almost none of the businesses on it because it's so difficult to
> bike.
>
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