Are the Old Middleton Road people saying that it's up to the people on the 
street to determine its design, and it's nobody else's business?  If they get 
the last word, would the same principle apply to collector streets in other 
neighborhoods?  



If the people who live near Drake/Grant Streets or Mills St. or Spaight St. or 
Winnebago Ave. could dictate the design of those streets, they might look very 
different.  Right now, they carry too more cars than the neighbors would like, 
generally going too fast.  If "outsiders" were kept out of the discussion, 
those streets might not have a "rural feel" but they would probably be friendly 
to cars, and hopefully more friendly to bikes and pedestrians. 



But I wonder if the folks on Old Middleton Road would be happy with those 
changes? 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "burleigh chorus.net" <[email protected]> 
To: "Mark Clear" <[email protected]> 
Cc: [email protected] 
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 6:01:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [Bikies] Old Middleton Road letter - Really? 

Mark, 

I saw one article recently where someone suggested "why don't they just put in 
one bike lane". Gee thats a nice compromise. King Solomon would approve. 

This issue came up shortly after I moved back in 2000.  When the alder at that 
time came to our neightborhood association meeting, he accused 'outside 
agitators'  ( I think those were his exact words) of undermining the process. 
Which was pretty insulting, since our neighborhood borders on OM Road. And I 
was in the audience.. 

I understand your reasoning for not raising this issue more broadly. But the 
fact is this is a city road, and not a private resources for a few people. Its 
sad that this attitude has stalled progress for 10 years. 



On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Mark Clear < [email protected] > wrote: 



Robbie and all, 

Thanks for posting this, Robbie. Does Trek even have lobbyists? Perhaps he 
meant Ken Golden. :) 

I made a very deliberate decision to keep this process in the neighborhood and 
not specifically alert bikies, Bike Fed, or any stealth Trek lobbyists. Not 
that I don't love you all, but I didn't want to create a perception of "outside 
bicyclists vs. neighbors," which some people claimed had contributed to the 
derailing of the project in the past. Sadly, Mr. Nikora perpetuates that myth, 
along with the myth that the process was undemocratic because the opponents who 
came to the council meeting didn't get their way. There is a lot of support for 
this project in the neighborhood and beyond, and I have plenty of e-mails to 
prove it. One person wrote to me, "You saved a life tonight." That helps make 
up for some of the very personal, hurtful things that were said to me last 
Tuesday. 

I'll feel even better when we can all enjoy a safe, smooth road that will still 
have plenty of rural charm and character. 

Mark C. 


On 1/22/2010 10:48 AM Robbie Webber wrote: 

The letter to the editor linked below is pretty humorous to me. 
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